Sailor

OK then!, some movement in the future, not bad!

I just wonder what attrition looks like for the next 5 yrs?

Plane Ramrod

I hear Frank eeked out a victory in the 109 election. Congrats Frank, bye bye Doug.

captscott26

Spirit website says new service ACY-LAS and increased frequencies FLL-TPA. No details on there yet as far as start dates. I just saw the FLL-TPA announcement on CBS4 news in South FL.

Plane Ramrod

Cool, see you at breakfast. BTW, did the website have quotes around new? ie "New" service ACY - LAS? It was new last time we did that flight.

unitedcop30

I have a friend furloughed from spirit...recall went mandatory...no option for leave of absence. And the spirit contract states no full retraining unless you've been out 36 months...so the furloughs would get a measly three or four sims then check ride....after they've been out 2 years. Totally not cool in my book...actually bush-league!!! They have no regard for their furloughed pilots and their families/situations. There are furloughed guys flying in the middle east that can't break their contracts, and now they will lose their seniority number because there are no leave of absences being granted. I find it funny how spirit all of a sudden needs All their furloughs back due to extreme growth. I'll believe it when I see it. The way spirit management runs the airline all it will take is a stiff breeze in FLL to furlough again..and trust me...Baldanza does not give two craps about any pilot at spirit. And it would have been nice to see spirits mec fight for the leave of absence for their furloughed guys. It's also funny that with the new contract first year pay actually DECREASED! Are you serious? I am furloughed from united...and although united has their shortcomings..the pilot group would NEVER let this occur.

Plane Ramrod

Hope you're wearing asbestos underware! Prepare to be flamed... The CBA bullys will be here soon! Run!!

unitedcop30

Ha ha, I hear ya. I'm speaking on my friends behalf, who has personally spoken with many of the furloughed pilots. 99% of them feel the same way, abandoned by their union. The union sent an email out to the furloughs about mandatory recall and said something to the effect of "we need 12 BODIES in class for December first.". I couldn't believe the UNION referenced BODIES in class...seriously? That is bush league again. I feel for the furloughed guys and gals at spirit. Many of them reference the airline as the "ultra low cost, ultra low class airline.". Anybody currently at spirit knows baldanza could actually care less about the pilots. If I were theta I'd be seriously afraid of another furlough...and I can tell you firsthand they suck! The union can come on here all they want and flame me but I don't care. They need to answer to their pilot group, who in fact includes the furloughs. But since soo many of them are being forced to resign since the union didn't fight for leave of absences, they really don't even count, right? Such messed up thinking. How freaking hard is it to fight for a leave of absence policy for YOUR UNION BROTHERS and SISTERS, but then again...they are only BODIES, right?

captscott26

Seriously! This isn't 2000 bud. Take a look at your own contract and A320 payrates before you start throwing stones.

unitedcop30

Where did you get pay rates and contract out of my post? I was talking about your union fighting for your furloughs...not everything is about money bro. And by the way...your last contract baldanza ****ed all over and violated 10 ways to Tuesday...what makes you think he won't do that again? What's stopping him again from telling you to grieve it and then wait for years to reach a verdict? Quality of life is much more important, which I believe he violated last contract with your minimum days off between trips...right????

Plane Ramrod

Well, that didn't take long did it?
Scotty is actually a big QOL proponent. B^3 violating the contract? Our biggest win in this CBA is the "expedited arbitration". Our transition language (with pictures and examples) was thrown out the window before the ink was dry. Our super expedited arbitration is going into month 4.