Spirit of NKS
07-05-2010, 11:22 AM
#1631
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Actually I have a pretty good idea of how the system works, my point is that you have been conned into believing it takes four years to get to a strike status.
Anyone want to quote me that chapter and verse?
What, nobody can find that four year clause? How about four days?
How about a little history?
Anyone want to quote me that chapter and verse?
What, nobody can find that four year clause? How about four days?
How about a little history?
07-05-2010, 11:37 AM
#1632
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Jungle, you lost me on this one (Admittedly, I'm easily confused). Most UPS employees aren't governed by the RLA, thus don't have to wait for the NMB to release them to self help. IOW, they're playing a whole different game. As to The Heritage Foundation's assessment of the situation... what was the point in posting it? It's a vehemently anti-labor organization, how do you think they're going to spin it? You seem to be generally well informed and I suspect you knew all of the above, so what were you trying to say? If you're suggesting a small MEC like Spirit open itself up to financial penalties for the union in general and potential jail for its leadership, I think recent court decisions have proven that to be an unwise course of action.
You may think that article was anti-labor, but you may also be subject to a lot of sunshine being blown up your wazoo. Unlike the usual puff piece produced by a company, union or the media it is chock full of factual information. Can you dispute those facts with any real alternate facts?
We often take our companies to task, but should we not demand the same accountability from our own organizations?
My point is to consider all sides of the argument, not just what you want to hear or believe. I think we should all be asking why these sorts of stalling tactics are viewed as an acceptable status quo.
The Treaty of Versailles was completed in six months. Mergers and pay cuts have been negotiated in much less time.
07-05-2010, 12:41 PM
#1633
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You may think that article was anti-labor...
... but you may also be subject to a lot of sunshine being blown up your wazoo.
Unlike the usual puff piece produced by a company, union or the media it is chock full of factual information.
We often take our companies to task, but should we not demand the same accountability from our own organizations?
My point is to consider all sides of the argument, not just what you want to hear or believe.
I think we should all be asking why these sorts of stalling tactics are viewed as an acceptable status quo.
07-06-2010, 07:33 AM
#1634
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How's the road show going up in DTW?
07-09-2010, 04:36 PM
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Great presentation, of the TA at ACY. After reviewing the TA on my own, and SHOWING up to the road show, I've made my decision.
I only hope the pilots making up stuff, confusing others just to vote one way or the other without the actual facts, show up and ask the necessary questions and stop acting like little babies, man up and talk in front of everyone.
Ohh, and make sure you know your facts and numbers if you gonna complain about something, because this guys do.
Bring the popcorn!!!
I only hope the pilots making up stuff, confusing others just to vote one way or the other without the actual facts, show up and ask the necessary questions and stop acting like little babies, man up and talk in front of everyone.
Ohh, and make sure you know your facts and numbers if you gonna complain about something, because this guys do.
Bring the popcorn!!!
Last edited by Sailor; 07-09-2010 at 05:26 PM.
07-18-2010, 05:34 PM
#1636
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So...after this TA passes, what next on the list to start b....ing about?
07-18-2010, 07:54 PM
#1637
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07-19-2010, 02:18 AM
#1639
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07-19-2010, 02:59 PM
#1640
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The TA will pass with a higher margin than most think.
When you have OLE and Clark backing up this TA, it will make a lot of pilots think twice and vote YES.
These guys that know what happen behind closed doors know more than us.
If OLE says that Management hates us then I'll take his word. If this TA fails we will be divided and Frankie and BBB will rip this pilot group apart.
JN
When you have OLE and Clark backing up this TA, it will make a lot of pilots think twice and vote YES.
These guys that know what happen behind closed doors know more than us.
If OLE says that Management hates us then I'll take his word. If this TA fails we will be divided and Frankie and BBB will rip this pilot group apart.
JN
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