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Old 07-13-2015, 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by flyingpuma1
A merger would be bad for me. I'm a sept 13 hire here and I'm not upgrading anytime soon.
If spirit + frontier merged today and you were hired in Sept 2013 or later: a straight ratio/ relative seniority integration versus a DOH integration would place you in roughly the same spot. It would be neither bad or good for you.
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Old 07-13-2015, 01:51 PM
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If spirit and frontier merged today, I figure we'd get a contract sometime in, oh, say 2017-2018, half the pilot group will shuffle off to Delta or United and you'll upgrade quite fast!
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Old 07-13-2015, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by gonyon
At the end of the day I'm just happy to be living the dream flying a jet. I still can't believe I get to fly an Airbus. I'd do this job for free!!
Why do we continue to have a regional mentality followed by SJS? Come on guys, if we act this way, we will forever be a bottom feeder of the majors.
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Old 07-13-2015, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by gonyon
I know it. I have said all along that part of our strategy should be to put out the info to prospective new hires. For example a snapshot, based upon a 25 years career at min guarantee, of the disparity in total compensation between a career here at Spirit and one at Deltited.

Shouldn't be too hard to put together.
It's not working for allegiant
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Old 07-13-2015, 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by gonyon
I know it. I have said all along that part of our strategy should be to put out the info to prospective new hires. For example a snapshot, based upon a 25 years career at min guarantee, of the disparity in total compensation between a career here at Spirit and one at Deltited.


Shouldn't be too hard to put together.
Would such a spreadsheet have stopped you from coming here?

If "no," why would it stop others.

If "yes," did you not know the large disparity in wages when applying?

Spirit is still asking 4000TT for hiring consideration and 500 PIC just for the privilege of plunking down $250 to attend a job fair.

No excel spreadsheet will cause an impact on hiring as long as the above continues to happen.
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Old 07-13-2015, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by The Juice
Would such a spreadsheet have stopped you from coming here?

If "no," why would it stop others.

If "yes," did you not know the large disparity in wages when applying?

Spirit is still asking 4000TT for hiring consideration and 500 PIC just for the privilege of plunking down $250 to attend a job fair.

No excel spreadsheet will cause an impact on hiring as long as the above continues to happen.
No, it would not have. I would have still come to Spirit because I am looking long term. The pay isn't everything and will rise with our new contract.
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Old 07-13-2015, 04:17 PM
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In other news, the company announced revised earning estimates for the quarter and year, citing "adverse weather" as the cause.

Spirit Airlines shares plunge 5% after adverse weather dampens earnings By Investing.com
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Old 07-13-2015, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Rainbows
Because as much as we b*tch about spirit, its still better than any regional and most corporate gigs. Better than my last gig by far. The pay has to come up, but I'd put my qol as a commuter up against any legacy. Minus the pay,mid like more pay.

anything is better than a flight insturctor salary
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Old 07-13-2015, 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by The Juice
Would such a spreadsheet have stopped you from coming here?



If "no," why would it stop others.



If "yes," did you not know the large disparity in wages when applying?



Spirit is still asking 4000TT for hiring consideration and 500 PIC just for the privilege of plunking down $250 to attend a job fair.



No excel spreadsheet will cause an impact on hiring as long as the above continues to happen.

The majors weren't hiring a few hundred a month at the time. Things have dramatically changed and will continue to.
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Old 07-14-2015, 04:42 AM
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Also when I got hired 2.5 yrs ago the big shiny new contracts were not in place. We made far better money than usairways, American was in its bankruptcy fight and united did not have their current deal.

I believe virgin and jet blue were even behind us.

If I was at a regional as a captain with a reasonably good expectation of getting picked up at one of the big 3, no way would I entertain coming to spirit given the current pay/benefit disparity as well as the fact that the fast upgrade is not there for guys hired today
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