Sailor

Hey, But there is an awesome ALPA safety seminar coming up.!!

gonyon

Path to a new MEC

Rainbows

Call me a sell out if you want but the way I look at it if we get pay parity with delta, United and American and keep our work rules, I'd say that would be a success. We're a much smaller airline, not near as established as the legacies. I'd take pay rates equal to American with our work rules, deltas profit sharing and uniteds retirement. What's wrong with that?

NK Bumble Bee

And how much more lucrative his ALPA drops become...

lowandslow

The problem is the "pathway" part. Aiming for industry average at DOS +4 is not what we want.

Qotsaautopilot

I feel the same way. I wanted to reach through the phone and choke him. Parity at DOS!!!

The Mesa way of thinking, always happy being last place.

Contract '10 was essentially a path to parity in the pay dept at dos +4. Where do we stand with that? One of the lowest paid airbus operators because the standard was raised again while Spirit pilots were on their "path". That's not pattern bargaining. That's always being one cycle behind and chasing "parity" forever. It must be achieved at DOS.

And I haven't verified the term being negotiated but why in earth would we sign a 4-5 year contract that turns into 7-8? 3 years max. Why lock in for the long run when airlines are making record profits. If for some reason things get bad nothing stops management from coming to the piggy bank to ask for some money mid contract so what's the incentive for a long term deal? None.

WaveRider

3 years MAX.....

GoMountaineers

+1. Parity at DOS or "No".....period!

How about some "PADOS" stickers while we still have flight bags.

JoeyMeatballs

Good read (great website for industry stuff)

http://centreforaviation.com/analysis/ultra-low-cost-airline-expansion-is-in-full-flow-in-atlanta-who-will-be-the-winners-and-losers-234124

kansas

Indeed. Unfortunately all indications are that this is exactly what is being negotiated for so far.