Spirit of NKS
06-03-2015, 11:07 PM
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At my age I probably have two contracts left in this business. With that being said, I'm building my "war chest" as we speak. Spirit is literally printing money and more will be printed as more planes are added to the connect the dots plan and more frequency. If an acceptable contract is not reached I will walk the picket line with my brothers and sisters. I've done it before at another carrier.
For those of you playing the "wait and see" game. The reality is there will not be an American, Delta or even United type of contract. Please don't pin your career hopes on that happening! If that's what you're expecting then you better get your applications out to those carriers and take the bird in the hand. Anyone can do the math and figure out for even someone in their 40s what their career progressions and earnings can total out to plus retirement.
Of course the real gamble will be when oil prices rise or if another terrorist attack happens. Because we all know the legacies hire until they furlough.
For those of you playing the "wait and see" game. The reality is there will not be an American, Delta or even United type of contract. Please don't pin your career hopes on that happening! If that's what you're expecting then you better get your applications out to those carriers and take the bird in the hand. Anyone can do the math and figure out for even someone in their 40s what their career progressions and earnings can total out to plus retirement.
Of course the real gamble will be when oil prices rise or if another terrorist attack happens. Because we all know the legacies hire until they furlough.
06-03-2015, 11:23 PM
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Wait WHAT?...I thought that's what we WANTED, 99% of us talk REPUBLICAN in the cockpit, I'm confused, but when we want a release we want a democrat, we want union, we want collective, we want an ALPA or similar, I thought we were supposed to put everyone down, complain and say that we can do better if we were in control, after pizzing all over volunteers work, we just kill our own, we never learn.......crazy talk...!
I for one don't know why anyone in this country prescribes to a party. IMO it's the main problem with American politics. I also think pilots are perfect candidates to be independent. They are usually higher income earners for low taxes but also prounion. How any one of us can in good conscious prescribe to one or the other political parties when both directly contradict your goals in at least one major way.
But hey, it's easier to talk about "this administration" and how they've pushed the country beyond repair.
06-04-2015, 05:01 AM
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Should be worth more when you're flying around an A320 with 191 SOB (PHX Redeye the other night). Granted not all of those we're paying pax, but we are still responsible for them.
06-04-2015, 05:35 AM
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I think that comes from more senior guys who "know this mgmt".
I don't think they see the labor hurting they are going to feel if they don't at least get into the same zip code as the legacies payscales. This time is very different and we need to understand that going into it.
06-04-2015, 05:37 AM
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Democrat: Take as much of your money as possible, redistribute it through welfare and entitlement programs. Pretend to be the friends of the "middle class" while refusing to investigate and prosecute the masterminds behind the financial collapse. They'll take your firearms, too. They know what's best for you, after all.
Republican: Take as much of your money as possible, give it to Israel and big government contractors to feed perpetual war in the Middle East. Spread fear of everything through the media. Contractors get rich. You can keep your firearms, they have bigger ones.
Republican: Take as much of your money as possible, give it to Israel and big government contractors to feed perpetual war in the Middle East. Spread fear of everything through the media. Contractors get rich. You can keep your firearms, they have bigger ones.
Let's just say it's a given that bendo, baldo et al and co probably contribute to the Republican Party.
06-04-2015, 06:40 AM
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Democrat: Take as much of your money as possible, redistribute it through welfare and entitlement programs. Pretend to be the friends of the "middle class" while refusing to investigate and prosecute the masterminds behind the financial collapse. They'll take your firearms, too. They know what's best for you, after all.
Republican: Take as much of your money as possible, give it to Israel and big government contractors to feed perpetual war in the Middle East. Spread fear of everything through the media. Contractors get rich. You can keep your firearms, they have bigger ones.
Republican: Take as much of your money as possible, give it to Israel and big government contractors to feed perpetual war in the Middle East. Spread fear of everything through the media. Contractors get rich. You can keep your firearms, they have bigger ones.
06-04-2015, 06:42 AM
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Ain't nothing wrong with contributing to the Republican Party, I count myself as a Republican, but I'm not going to try and sway anyone to my way of thinking. Politics should be kept out of the cockpit and unions ARE a necessary evil. There. Now more important stuff, 2% raise is ridiculous, no one can honestly be happy with that. I just finished that survey, it was a little awkwardly written, but I think, the negotiators will get the idea of what we want.
06-04-2015, 07:25 AM
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06-04-2015, 07:27 AM
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06-04-2015, 07:49 AM
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