Freightcowboy

I'm not a fan of the open time resolution and I will say "EFF THAT" as well. However, what the Union is doing is giving you a chance to voice your opinion.

So instead of *****ing about it on here, voice your opinion and move on, already have spoken to Ackerman about it and it has zero support of getting voted in.

So all relax before you all stroke out

Rainbows

The issue is the imbalance in pilots who currently live in FLL. With quick upgrades come imbalances that should eventually work themselves out. LAS is our current junior CA base, DFW is probably next, but an overwhelming number of CAs live in FLL, what's happening are CAs are dropping their whole lines and then living off picking up open time in FLL. Since the contract and FLICA allow this, I don't see a problem. THe very senior CAs are complaining because they can't drop and pick up at will, since open time is a first come, first serve deal. This is only a FLL issue, but any change would have to be done system wide. And, it would affect everyone. The senior CAs already have it good, just fly the line you're awarded, pick up open time like the rest of us and quit whining. Have I got the gist of it right? Since I don't live in base, I wasn't able to attend the union meeting where this resolution on open time was introduced, but unless everyone wants to limit their options, this should be voted down. dont forget too the strict enforcement of picking up open time within two days via FLICA was a result of this complaint.

Freightcowboy

I see your point it might advance us up the list. Lol

Hugedouche

Hey balls, yes he is very much in favor of this to the extent when you ask him about it he says " this is what the fll guys want and I agree"

This whole issue is a joke

Qotsaautopilot

Everyone relax. They have to at least persue it. The 109 pilots passed the resolution and the reps are required to represent them. If the results of the survey showed the group as a whole isn't interested it will die on the vine but they have to at least take these steps for the 109 captains.

You have to remember that you are dealing with a group of guys trained to pick up lots of open time because it was 150%. They then created lifestyles around that and when 150% wheat away they had to pick up even more open time. Also the out of base captains that life in FLL have commuting at stake so they stalk open time and are very very quick to grab anything that comes open so even the FLL captains that want to make simple swaps cannot because there is nothing left to trade with. This also creates more red days on the other bases so because guys that live in FLL are dropping their lines to pick up in FLL. This makes it harder for the guys that actually live in those other bases to drop or make swaps that move days later in the month.

I'm for out of base trading but just letting you know why this resolution existed. And all of those on here saying they oppose it must not be fll based because I saw none of you at the meeting where this thing got passed by an overwhelming margin.

Also I don't think the 109 reps actually support the resolution because one is a long distance driver that probably doesn't pick up much open time and the other is actually a captain in another base and probably doing exactly what this resolution is trying to limit. However, they are required to represent the pilots of 109 and that's what they are doing. It may only be a small portion of 109 that actually favors this thing but they were the only ones that cared enough to show up. Where were the rest of you?

Lobaeux

I know it's not every month, but there are plenty of Open Time trips on the CA side for June that no one seems to be picking up.

Qotsaautopilot

June July and August are typically exceptions to the other 9 months of the year.

Qotsaautopilot

Again I don't support the resolution at all but in fairness it's not aimed at stopping out of base pickups it's seeking to limit it by giving in base pilots first crack. I know some other airlines don't award open time first come first serve but have multiple "close outs" during the day and award based on seniority and by domicile. We could go to something like open time awards every 4 hrs and still be first come first based on the time of the request but by only awarding it to an out of base pilot if no in base pilots requested it in the 4 hour period. If a few did it would go to the first in base guy that made the request to honor first come first serve

Or simply award it instantly if requested by and in base pilot but if an out of base guy requests it remains in opentime for at least 4 hours. If the trip has been in open time for 4:01 and has no requests for it it would go to any pilot system wide when a request is made.

Also the trade limiting after 12:00pm two days prior is already in the contract and is now being enforced because FLL captains were standing available during that cutoff period and out of base pilots were calling and getting trips when you had guys on the available list. That is illegal per the contract so those captains filed grievances and won and they got paid for those trips too. I hate it too because you can't even trade day for day inside that period which severely limits qol but CH and co only care about themselves and filed grievances not thinking about how it affects even their in base brethren from making swaps. A serial contract violator filing a grievance for contract compliance is pure insanity but that's what happend.

Tine

Well. I for 1 hope it that it's fate is swift. Also I wish that CH and the rest of the little piggies that picked up OT well above and beyond guarantee with fellow aviators on furlough, are severely affected by its the non passage. Maybe then they can feel a little pain like we did on furlough. She's a liar and a cheat. She picks up out of base all the time.

Qotsaautopilot

I wish she would just quit. I would hope for a firing but she would sue and get her job back. Maybe a non-life-threatening issue that causes a loss of medical while we have this terrible LTD. Yeah that.