Spirit of NKS
04-30-2015, 05:35 PM
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Spirit and best...same article. Who'da thunk it.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/6-best-airlines-business-travelers-133000426.html
https://www.yahoo.com/news/6-best-airlines-business-travelers-133000426.html
04-30-2015, 06:38 PM
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Spirit and best...same article. Who'da thunk it.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/6-best-ai...133000426.html
https://www.yahoo.com/news/6-best-ai...133000426.html
05-01-2015, 07:21 AM
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One of my consulting friends in Dallas had always been instructed by their firm to book the cheapest ticket to their assignments. A group of his colleagues booked Spirit for the first time since it was the cheapest, even with bags. The flight home cancelled for some reason; Spirit did the "we can get you out in 4 day" BS so they had to pay walk up on American. Their firm charges by the hour and couldn't have their consultants out of position for 4 days. They are now instructed to pay for the cheapest ticket, except for Spirit, since it cost them extra in the long run. Not good.
That was a few years ago during the "Summer of Love"; fortunately, our operations metrics have improved tremendously, but those are customers we will probably never have again.
That was a few years ago during the "Summer of Love"; fortunately, our operations metrics have improved tremendously, but those are customers we will probably never have again.
05-01-2015, 08:44 AM
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One of my consulting friends in Dallas had always been instructed by their firm to book the cheapest ticket to their assignments. A group of his colleagues booked Spirit for the first time since it was the cheapest, even with bags. The flight home cancelled for some reason; Spirit did the "we can get you out in 4 day" BS so they had to pay walk up on American. Their firm charges by the hour and couldn't have their consultants out of position for 4 days. They are now instructed to pay for the cheapest ticket, except for Spirit, since it cost them extra in the long run. Not good.
That was a few years ago during the "Summer of Love"; fortunately, our operations metrics have improved tremendously, but those are customers we will probably never have again.
That was a few years ago during the "Summer of Love"; fortunately, our operations metrics have improved tremendously, but those are customers we will probably never have again.
The lack of frequency hurts us with business customers, that's true.
05-01-2015, 08:57 AM
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Well that settles it I guess.
Which part do you disagree with? My take on stock investing vs wage earning? My take on how management manages for stock price vs long term viability? Or, my take on labor unrest giving us an advantage?
Whose side are you on?
Originally Posted by geauxpro
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If a Spirit pilot values his/her investment in Spirit stock, he/she must realize that the moves BBB takes to keep the stock overvalued are in direct conflict with our expectations of making higher wages as a Spirit pilot.
There was a time in the world when business managed themselves for profitable operations. If their management was basically intelligent and honest, they managed themselves for profits in the long term.
That time is past. Wealth is created now with increases in stock valuation, not in running a profitable operation. BBB will do what he has to keep the stock value up. Our best hope of a pay raise will be when the participants on these investor calls get scared of labor unrest.
If a Spirit pilot values his/her investment in Spirit stock, he/she must realize that the moves BBB takes to keep the stock overvalued are in direct conflict with our expectations of making higher wages as a Spirit pilot.
There was a time in the world when business managed themselves for profitable operations. If their management was basically intelligent and honest, they managed themselves for profits in the long term.
That time is past. Wealth is created now with increases in stock valuation, not in running a profitable operation. BBB will do what he has to keep the stock value up. Our best hope of a pay raise will be when the participants on these investor calls get scared of labor unrest.
Originally Posted by RP4242
Uhhh, no, just no
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05-01-2015, 10:50 AM
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Can't make a simple swap of a 4 day for a 4 day on 5/3 because it's past 1200edt on 5/1. And the trip I want starts earlier than the one I have. CH you can suck my balls. I'm not even trying to pick up, just swap on the same exact days. Suck my balls CH!
05-01-2015, 10:54 AM
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Yeah, her whining and crying about open time really did some damage to our qol. But, she don't care as long as she got hers and she still being taken care of by the schedulers. Screw her, I got her on my no fly list.
05-01-2015, 11:10 AM
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Which part do you disagree with? My take on stock investing vs wage earning? My take on how management manages for stock price vs long term viability? Or, my take on labor unrest giving us an advantage?
Whose side are you on?
Whose side are you on?
How can you possibly say that wealth has nothing to do with a profitable operation anymore when the profitable operation is the direct cause by which the stock rises and creates said wealth.
Right or wrong, have a look at a 9-10% stock decline 48 hours ago, that had everything to do with current and near future profitability of the operation. Even labor negotiations, unless they go to some really extreme measure, are just a blip on the radar compared to the financial sheet when putting a value on a stock when having a look at the macro level. If the opposite was true airlines such as US Airways would have been worth 50c per share and not buying up far larger carriers.
This does not go only for Spirit, but every OA as well.
05-01-2015, 11:16 AM
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05-01-2015, 12:07 PM
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Anyone ever bought trAvel insurance for a hotel or vacation rental? Who did you use and did they cover nonrev travel where you don't make the flight so you have to cancel the trip?
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