Keizer Soze

What about the Open Time Resolution? Will that be addressed at a later meeting?

Plane Ramrod

Anything that stuffs DP back under the rock he came from is a net plus for the pilot group. Do you have any idea how many pilots have been DP'd over the years? The system worked, he had his day in court so to speak as it looks like that motion failed.


I guess we know now why he would rather have 300 phone calls instead of sending out 1 email.

They needed to cut out the cancer now, it already spread to the NC. If I wanted the NC's opinion on MEC governance, I'd elect them as status reps. Beside that, why would you want to stay in a job where 2/3 of your bosses don't want you there? Think about that one.

At what company does the management consult the employees on replacing upper management positions?

Party line? Both of the 77 status reps were former MEC darlings when they were elected.

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Hugedouche

Balder

I will be the first to say that recalls are not always the smartest thing to do , especially given our current position.

With that being said, I completely believe that this was the right move for us and for the company. The guys running the MEC were mostly topped out and making some killer money doing the MEC thing. They had no real reason to push for the best contract possible because they are already living a pretty nice life. I'm not saying that is how they thought but their actions seemed to say otherwise, and it could have effected the out come of section 6 significantly.

Additionally, Chris needed a reality check, his actions and words to me personally did not signify him as a leader. Not knowing him on a personal day to day basis its hard to judge him in whole but I strongly believe it was his time to go. If for nothing else we needed some new blood and new ideas.

I feel James is the right man for the job because he has the burning desire to lead and get us on track to be well paid. I think he will get some of our apathetic pilots to get on board to get the best possible contract. We have so many guys here that are more than happy being the lowest paid Airbus pilots, it maddening see our group so divided over what we should or should not be getting paid.

Please give this guy a chance to bring us together and kick some ass!

Cheers

flyingpuma1

I give a new guy a chance but I want to me more than well paid we can have the highest pay in the industry but it doesn't mean anything if our work rules and health ins costs are crap.

NewA320Driver

I just got a text that said they tabled the resolution. Whatever that means...

Cruise

Means it's been delayed until the next MEC meeting.

Hugedouche

agreed.......

GeauxPro

I'm beginning to understand that Spirit union pilots do things differently. But what new MEC are you talking about?

A careful read of the union emails from yesterday says that the MEC removed its Chairman and replaced him with another.

Do we at Spirit give the leadership role to our MEC Chairman? We didnt do it that way at brand X.

Ditto to the IF NOT NOW, WHEN?

Jett i son

Three MEC officers have stepped down, two were recalled and one resigned. I used the adjective "new" to describe the changes in the MEC.
We can call it the "revised" MEC, it still makes no difference if this "new" MEC does not change our negotiating strategy.
This may have to come from the LEC level.
We need some urgency and spunk from our representatives going into the negotiations, not feeling comfortable with the status quo.

IF NOT NOW, WHEN?

GeauxPro

The problem we have here is simple, you're not understanding that there were NO changes to the MEC unless my read of the ALPA Constitution is wrong. The change to the MEC took place in March when Ackermann took his seat on the Council.