Jett i son

Open contracts are a liability, especially for a fast growing, stock market favorite, like our company.
Uncertainty diminishes Spirit's market valuation.

Kerosene Xwind

The reason the company wants to hurry it up is that the environment is not favourable to them. I.e. They can't say sign this or the company is going bankrupt. Or we can't afford to give you X without concessions in Y. The company would much rather buy us off quickly so that in 5 years the environment will be better for them to give excuses (like we aren't the most profitable Airline in the US, we are not growing, the economy is weak, fuel prices are taking too much money from profits to give pilots a raise. Etc.)as to why they can't give us improvements in all areas with zero concessions! If we can't get this now, we will never be able to as the conditions have never been more favorable to Pilots since deregulation that I can remember. Nothing but across the board gains will be acceptable for my vote.

WingAttackPlanR

Didn't see any other threads with the answers so...

Starting to plan my post-AF retirement plans and am looking at Spirit based on the business model and upgrade times. I currently live 15 min south of BWI and wife doesn't want to move anytime soon. As a new hire, how is ACY in terms of trip types/destinations and sitting reserve? Would it be better to commute out of BWI to another base or drive a few hours up to ACY?

Lobaeux

While I can't comment on ACY's trips, I don't think you would be on reserve for long there.
Not many post AF guys here, at least not straight from the AF. There's me and one other guy who should be finishing training soon. If you're a retiree with the extra retirement pay, it's really hard to beat this place for QOL. My running the rat race days are over, Spirit is very laid back, the trips varied and easy and the future is bright.

Hopefully someone can chime in about ACY. I live in FLL and this job just can't be beat.

BigGuns

That is 100% wrong!

Android

F-ing A. None of this" focused on not losing" shinola!

Android

In case any of the Spirit Union elected officials read this forum.

Go talk to some of your ex Eagle members and ask them how well that confidentiality agreement worked for them.

Confidentiality agreements are for suckers. Suckers.

Android

Did everyone hear that we're ordering A330's at the Paris Airshow ? Or was it Farnborough?

Your secret is out Todd, no more need for confidentiality

Duckslayer

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Qotsaautopilot

Just my opinion but don't count on any base being there forever in this business. That said I'd say the long term stability for the BWI base at southwest is much better than AcY at spirit. Don't be blinded by the quick upgrade. The upgrade times here are getting longer here and will make a huge jump to who knows how many years for those hired after this year if we don't order any more airplanes. Also upgrade doesn't mean much when a 3yr fo at American is making more money than a 4yr captain at spirit on the same equipment. Not to mention the Scope LTD and retirement contribution. Now that could all change in a new contract so ya never know. But if not moving is your number one priority then I would try to get hired at southwest and with all current known quantities you'll make more as a SW fo than a spirit captain. Qol wise we have some good things and other airlines have some good things so that's a wash but living in base is the number one thing you can do to improve your qol and you live in a junior sw domicile.