Spirit of NKS
04-03-2015, 12:40 PM
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Scope: spirit current or future flying shall always be done by spirit pilots from the spirit seniority list. None of that flying shall be outsourced, code shared, joint ventures, capacity purchased, etc. Spirit shall not create or acquire an alter ego airline to get around that language. In the event of a merger/acquisition/sale of or with spirit airlines then the surviving carrier shall have the same scope language or better and the pilots of both/all carriers shall be integrated through the Alpa seniority list integration policy and the new carrier(s) shall have only one seniority list. This shall apply to airlines and holding companies owning and/or operating an airline or airlines. This scope shall not be held hostage or used as an ultimatum to modify it as a condition of a transaction between spirit and another airline or hiking company
In other words: any revenue spirit airlines or any future airline or holding company generates through the carriage or people or goods by air shall only be done by pilots on the spirit seniority list and there shall always be only one seniority list.
Now put that in legalese and that's what I want.
In other words: any revenue spirit airlines or any future airline or holding company generates through the carriage or people or goods by air shall only be done by pilots on the spirit seniority list and there shall always be only one seniority list.
Now put that in legalese and that's what I want.
04-03-2015, 02:16 PM
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As well, my guess is that they have a few more surveys coming, different areas and all. Scope, Schedule, etc. All at once may be to much...?
04-05-2015, 08:22 AM
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I applaud the MEC for this.
These surveys are paramount in focusing on what is important.
I very much hope our membership dispels the myth that we would be fine with a quickie, by just adding some $$$.
Compensation should be well rounded, in the form of pay, retirement, profit sharing/stock options, contributions, and increased scheduling efficiency which would increase line value and days off.
These surveys are paramount in focusing on what is important.
I very much hope our membership dispels the myth that we would be fine with a quickie, by just adding some $$$.
Compensation should be well rounded, in the form of pay, retirement, profit sharing/stock options, contributions, and increased scheduling efficiency which would increase line value and days off.
04-05-2015, 10:16 AM
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I applaud the MEC for this.
These surveys are paramount in focusing on what is important.
I very much hope our membership dispels the myth that we would be fine with a quickie, by just adding some $$$.
Compensation should be well rounded, in the form of pay, retirement, profit sharing/stock options, contributions, and increased scheduling efficiency which would increase line value and days off.
These surveys are paramount in focusing on what is important.
I very much hope our membership dispels the myth that we would be fine with a quickie, by just adding some $$$.
Compensation should be well rounded, in the form of pay, retirement, profit sharing/stock options, contributions, and increased scheduling efficiency which would increase line value and days off.
04-05-2015, 11:04 AM
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Sure they can look at AWA/USAIR......in addition, who are we going to merger with overnight, or in the next 4-5 years for the matter?
04-05-2015, 11:26 AM
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I applaud the MEC for this.
These surveys are paramount in focusing on what is important.
I very much hope our membership dispels the myth that we would be fine with a quickie, by just adding some $$$.
Compensation should be well rounded, in the form of pay, retirement, profit sharing/stock options, contributions, and increased scheduling efficiency which would increase line value and days off.
These surveys are paramount in focusing on what is important.
I very much hope our membership dispels the myth that we would be fine with a quickie, by just adding some $$$.
Compensation should be well rounded, in the form of pay, retirement, profit sharing/stock options, contributions, and increased scheduling efficiency which would increase line value and days off.
Breaux, I think we been shafted again.
04-05-2015, 11:29 AM
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Why publish more surveys? They have already decided what they intend to negotiate. They said as much in the letter they sent out about their "focus". For that matter, why send out the one they did?
04-05-2015, 12:11 PM
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04-05-2015, 02:18 PM
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We could merge with anyone, frontier, allegiant, even alaska. Even a legacy carrier it don't matter. United and continental was a merger many didn't see coming as well as american and usair same as southwest and airtran. Southwest was suppose to buy frontier that didn't happen and they got bought by republic and then indigo anything can happen. The point is without protection we are sitting ducks like the airtran guys. One thing we can count on is we wont be buying anyone we are shedding and outsourcing our ground people. It makes a lot of sense for us to watch out for ourselves I think ALPA will do a decent job for us if it's any ALPA carrier, except maybe delta, but if it's American or southwest we are on our own. And protection doesn't cost the company a thing.
04-05-2015, 04:23 PM
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Open contracts are a liability, especially for a fast growing, stock market favorite, like our company.
We are an investor "darling", any uncertainty diminishes Spirit's market valuation.
This is key in negotiations.
We would be foolish to give away any of our advantages.
Time is on our side!
The MEC must get the message that we are willing to wait for the best possible outcome.
Last edited by Jett i son; 04-05-2015 at 04:53 PM.
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