Spirit of NKS
Problem is the pilots who assume any ALPA volunteer, I say again, volunteer, who take any kind of flight pay loss, is screwing the system over. The anti MEC conspiracy theorists will come with their pitch forks and scream for heads.
That being said, I think at a minimum the MEC chair and NC should be on full time buys currently and the Scheduling Committee should have buys along withe Grievance Committee, for a few members to help DO THE WORK OF THE PILOTS, not "vacation on a union dime," like many assume they do. Rules should be in place to allow them to be compensated what they would make on the line, without being able to double dip and pick up more time and fly ontop of what their buy out is.
We are going to battle and to have our front line soldiers prep for this battle and fly RSW turns is insane. Totally insane.
How many millions did we 'gain' in C2010 over C2003?
I believe the number was around 46$million? Can anyone correct me on that please. And was that 46 annually or 46 over the next five years of the contract duration?
Thanks.
I believe the number was around 46$million? Can anyone correct me on that please. And was that 46 annually or 46 over the next five years of the contract duration?
Thanks.
Found this article,
Airline Investors: Don't Underestimate Spirit Airlines' Big Growth Plans (JBLU, SAVE)
less interested in the article than the comment by the "financial guru" at the bottom that says this
"Based on current guidance, Spirit is on pace to earn a profit of about $500,000 per pilot this year. It could raise pilot compensation by $100K per person and still earn a pre-tax margin of more than 20% (better than any of the majors)."
Airline Investors: Don't Underestimate Spirit Airlines' Big Growth Plans (JBLU, SAVE)
less interested in the article than the comment by the "financial guru" at the bottom that says this
"Based on current guidance, Spirit is on pace to earn a profit of about $500,000 per pilot this year. It could raise pilot compensation by $100K per person and still earn a pre-tax margin of more than 20% (better than any of the majors)."
Not sure how many pilots he thinks we have but 100k times 1000 is 100 million bucks
There is no reason at a MINIMUM the MEC Chair isn't out on full buy...at this point, there should be at least 3 people out working on our behalf, especially with negotiations opening in less than 6 months!
I agree with you, he should be on a full time buy. The airline is growing and with a pilot group of over 1100 pilots now, ALPA positions on a full time buy is not only standard, its necessary.
Problem is the pilots who assume any ALPA volunteer, I say again, volunteer, who take any kind of flight pay loss, is screwing the system over. The anti MEC conspiracy theorists will come with their pitch forks and scream for heads.
That being said, I think at a minimum the MEC chair and NC should be on full time buys currently and the Scheduling Committee should have buys along withe Grievance Committee, for a few members to help DO THE WORK OF THE PILOTS, not "vacation on a union dime," like many assume they do. Rules should be in place to allow them to be compensated what they would make on the line, without being able to double dip and pick up more time and fly ontop of what their buy out is.
We are going to battle and to have our front line soldiers prep for this battle and fly RSW turns is insane. Totally insane.
Problem is the pilots who assume any ALPA volunteer, I say again, volunteer, who take any kind of flight pay loss, is screwing the system over. The anti MEC conspiracy theorists will come with their pitch forks and scream for heads.
That being said, I think at a minimum the MEC chair and NC should be on full time buys currently and the Scheduling Committee should have buys along withe Grievance Committee, for a few members to help DO THE WORK OF THE PILOTS, not "vacation on a union dime," like many assume they do. Rules should be in place to allow them to be compensated what they would make on the line, without being able to double dip and pick up more time and fly ontop of what their buy out is.
We are going to battle and to have our front line soldiers prep for this battle and fly RSW turns is insane. Totally insane.
To think we can continue to have our pilot leaders flying a typical schedule is ludicrous. The conspiracy theorists around here need to add an extra layer to their tinfoil hat and suck it up.
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We better not just be opening negotiations in 6 months. We better be well on our way to an industry leading Cba
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4 people showed up to the LEC18 meeting in Chicago and almost 40% of this group failed to even bother to fill out the contract survey form. I regularly engage people I fly with on union emails and most have said they haven't read them (most recent examples are the pay rate and retirement comparison emails). Communication can be better, but the overall apathetic nature of this pilot group is alarming and independent of any external communication. How will these pilots know what we are worth and what is fair if they have no idea what industry average even is?
When you lecture the members on apathy, you must also acknowledge the role played by the leaders.
Approximately one year ago, the members of Local 109 showed up "en masse" at at local meeting. They were involved and motivated. They offered up and then passed a couple of resolutions. The union then proceeded to ignore the members of that local.
When you lecture the members on apathy, you must also acknowledge the role played by the leaders.
When you lecture the members on apathy, you must also acknowledge the role played by the leaders.
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Joined APC: Mar 2009
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Approximately one year ago, the members of Local 109 showed up "en masse" at at local meeting. They were involved and motivated. They offered up and then passed a couple of resolutions. The union then proceeded to ignore the members of that local.
When you lecture the members on apathy, you must also acknowledge the role played by the leaders.
When you lecture the members on apathy, you must also acknowledge the role played by the leaders.
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