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Old 02-06-2015, 08:09 PM
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Just curious. Experience does matter. If an engine is going all out bonkers and especially overtemping/limits the last one should do is firewall it. I don't know the specifics of the US Air case but I'll read up on it.
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Old 02-06-2015, 08:16 PM
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It looks like they got the Overlimit ECAM at FL190, went TOGA then 4-minutes later the engine went?, at least that's how I'm reading it.

Anyway, take a look at 3.70.19 in the EMERGENCY/ABNORMAL

I'm not playing Monday morning qtrback, just trying to understand sequence of events
Well the NTSB report states that they received 3 initial ECAM warnings, not sure what the priority is on those 3 and if 3.70.19 EGT Overlimit was the first one for them to go to.

They did receive an EPR mode fault ECAM. So the #1 engine may have degraded into N1 unrated mode, and provided an overboost.
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Old 02-06-2015, 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
Just curious. Experience does matter. If an engine is going all out bonkers and especially overtemping/limits the last one should do is firewall it. I don't know the specifics of the US Air case but I'll read up on it.

As mentioned, it is irrelevant. The Captain of KLM Flight 4805 had a lot of experience. The Captain of USAir 1702 had a lot of experience. We can go on and on.

Stop fishing.
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Old 02-06-2015, 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
CA experience in the bus? 2.5 yr newbie or more experienced?

Shy, really? I've asked you before to PLEASE wipe your feet before walking into the NKS forum. You're tracking your feces through our livingroom

I've seen the ECAM report, and I guarantee, at touchdown, you would still be trying to figure out which way is up.

I'm not buying the hit piece Mr Hradecky is selling. Just like the d0uchbag stalking pilot's instagram accounts.
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Old 02-06-2015, 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
Just curious. Experience does matter. If an engine is going all out bonkers and especially overtemping/limits the last one should do is firewall it. I don't know the specifics of the US Air case but I'll read up on it.
Go ahead and do that. Read the very simple mistakes that were made by a very experienced crew and then report back to us all about how their experience "mattered" in that situation.

One could argue that a pilot with less experience, say a newbie, would have been less likely to respond with a lax "we'll handle that airborne" when the plane is alerting you, or as you say "going bonkers" on the take off roll.

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Old 02-06-2015, 09:31 PM
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Also as I've said before I'll say it again. Many captains new to a type have been captains on other types for years. The beauty of spirit is that with one fleet type it's a guarantee that any pilots hired since we got the airbus have all had the added experience of being an fo in the type. Whereas at another airline it's quite likely that you could have a pilot that's been a captain for 25 years on a 737 transition straight to the left seat of a 777 or A330. Would you be asking the same experience questions of that guy? I doubt it.
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Old 02-07-2015, 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
Just curious. Experience does matter. If an engine is going all out bonkers and especially overtemping/limits the last one should do is firewall it. I don't know the specifics of the US Air case but I'll read up on it.
ShyGuy- you tried to get on at Spirit before you got hired at VA. Had you slipped between the cracks you would have been a 2.5 year upgrade. Would you have bypassed to because you needed more experience??? Back to trolling I see.
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Old 02-07-2015, 03:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Green Giant
Really. Have you asked any of our new hires who are in there 50's and don't have much time left?
Like my 50 year old sim partner who bailed after 6 months?
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Old 02-07-2015, 03:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Plane Ramrod
Agreed. The ECAM list would have taken longer to read then to land the plane. Another NK hit peice.
+1 couldn't believe that when I read it. talk about information overload..................Wonderful Airbus

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Old 02-07-2015, 05:48 AM
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Do you guys do many overnights down south (BOG, LIM, etc) or are they mostly out and backs?
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