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02-04-2015, 03:06 PM
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Not even counting conflicts for travel, at a minimum every pilot on 12-13 days off must have training put on their working days so they don't go below min days off. This requires the company to staff a certain number of extra pilots to cover those in training. Those extra pilots boost your relative seniority which controls when you can hold a domicile or upgrade. The company will no longer be required to staff those extra pilots if everyone including those with 12-13 day off lines now trains on days off.
02-04-2015, 04:15 PM
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And how is this ta that you and others want to vote yes for, that gives great efficiencies to the company for very little in return, going to help you acquire the desires stated above?
02-04-2015, 04:24 PM
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EXACTLY my thought. The company isn't giving us this out of the goodness of their hearts. The LOA gives them more savings and more flexibility than whatever they can do otherwise. What this means for us is less required staffing/longer upgrades. Also, if we vote this in, it sends a very strong message to the company that we are willing to vote in almost anything come contract time, as long as there are sufficient scare tactics employed i.e. commuters having to come to their domicile for GS and pay for hotels if they vote no. I hope our pilot group isn't really this spineless! Come on people!
02-04-2015, 04:40 PM
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EXACTLY my thought. The company isn't giving us this out of the goodness of their hearts. The LOA gives them more savings and more flexibility than whatever they can do otherwise. What this means for us is less required staffing/longer upgrades. Also, if we vote this in, it sends a very strong message to the company that we are willing to vote in almost anything come contract time, as long as there are sufficient scare tactics employed i.e. commuters having to come to their domicile for GS and pay for hotels if they vote no. I hope our pilot group isn't really this spineless! Come on people!
EXACTLY my thought. The company isn't giving us this out of the goodness of their hearts. The LOA gives them more savings and more flexibility than whatever they can do otherwise. What this means for us is less required staffing/longer upgrades. Also, if we vote this in, it sends a very strong message to the company that we are willing to vote in almost anything come contract time, as long as there are sufficient scare tactics employed i.e. commuters having to come to their domicile for GS and pay for hotels if they vote no. I hope our pilot group isn't really this spineless! Come on people!
About voting anything IN that our union presents, I don't believe that's true either, we talk of our company's scare tactics but we also spread a good amount of BS ourselves.
Hiring and upgrades will continue as long as we keep getting ACs..the difference between pre/after DL amount of upgrades and hiring it's probably very small.
Btw, I voted no, for my own personal reasons.
02-05-2015, 05:37 AM
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Apparently we're being sued because the O2 masks were never deployed during that engine failure out of DFW, you know.......the oxygen masks THAT DEPLOY IF YOU LOSE CABIN PRESSURE. Lol. The passengers are also sueing because of our "cutting corners" Mx wise. What a joke
02-05-2015, 07:17 AM
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My last company everything was MEL'd with stickers every where. At Spirit most of the time nothing is MEL'd. The best maintenance I have ever had in aviation.
02-05-2015, 07:49 AM
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Apparently we're being sued because the O2 masks were never deployed during that engine failure out of DFW, you know.......the oxygen masks THAT DEPLOY IF YOU LOSE CABIN PRESSURE. Lol. The passengers are also sueing because of our "cutting corners" Mx wise. What a joke
Did the ntsb issue a final report?
02-05-2015, 08:30 AM
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Apparently we're being sued because the O2 masks were never deployed during that engine failure out of DFW, you know.......the oxygen masks THAT DEPLOY IF YOU LOSE CABIN PRESSURE. Lol. The passengers are also sueing because of our "cutting corners" Mx wise. What a joke
02-05-2015, 08:49 AM
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Apparently we're being sued because the O2 masks were never deployed during that engine failure out of DFW, you know.......the oxygen masks THAT DEPLOY IF YOU LOSE CABIN PRESSURE. Lol. The passengers are also sueing because of our "cutting corners" Mx wise. What a joke
All news these days is crap, Brian Wilson will probably claim to have been on that Spirit flight.
02-05-2015, 08:57 AM
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"Health and cleanliness concerns were also noted. After a September 2014 complaint, inspectors found rats in one aircraft cabin, according to FAA documents."
Awesome.
Imagine if word got out about the FA's new study room
Hard to imagine the FAA would approve anything like this for any recurrent training or training if any kind. Must be for something else.
Are we even a real professional airline?
Awesome.
Imagine if word got out about the FA's new study room
Hard to imagine the FAA would approve anything like this for any recurrent training or training if any kind. Must be for something else.
Are we even a real professional airline?
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