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Old Yesterday, 03:21 AM
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NK is still operating as normal, but APS Is already in contract negotiations.
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Old Yesterday, 03:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Powderkeg
Another F9 guy here, I've been curious about your pay rates...when the B6 merger was looming did they memorialize those gains into an LOA (without expiration) until a JCBA could be reached? Or was it just a bone they threw you to tide things over through the merger process? If we merge and it's not contractual I'm sure they're going away in the near-term but we will all have to negotiate the next CBA so I don't see any pay cuts as permanent. If it's part of your CBA the rates won't change until we negotiate a JCBA. They day turns on the other hand...

Also, I love the proposed F9NK nickname of this thread of "LFG", which I can only assume means "Low Fares Giant" lol
They are contractual and part of our current CBA, which is currently amendable, as is yours.
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Old Yesterday, 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Macjet
The prospect of working for Frankie again and having our rates cut down to F9 levels is a reason that so many NK Captains are awaiting class dates elsewhere.
Why would our rates get "cut down"? If we merge we would have to negotiate a new CBA and both carriers are already vastly underpaid compared to our peers.
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Originally Posted by Lincoln Osiris
Why would our rates get "cut down"? If we merge we would have to negotiate a new CBA and both carriers are already vastly underpaid compared to our peers.
Because your negotiating leverage isn't very strong.
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Old Yesterday, 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Lincoln Osiris
Why would our rates get "cut down"? If we merge we would have to negotiate a new CBA and both carriers are already vastly underpaid compared to our peers.
Because management's argument would be that your "peers" are Sunny, Allegiant, and Breeze. And since the court has already ruled that NK is in a different category than B6, you'd be averaging between an NK losing money and F9 at their current rates.
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Old Yesterday, 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
Because management's argument would be that your "peers" are Sunny, Allegiant, and Breeze. And since the court has already ruled that NK is in a different category than B6, you'd be averaging between an NK losing money and F9 at their current rates.
Not the case at all. Ask a rep what would happen to our pay if we were given a bankrupcy contract. (hint, it will actually go up). Our "peers" are other airbus drivers. Not the company's business model.
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Old Yesterday, 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by JulesWinfield
Because your negotiating leverage isn't very strong.
True but we are talking about a JCBA not the current state of the airline. Since Spirit isn't making money do they get a discount on fuel?
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Old Yesterday, 10:16 AM
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Not the case at all. Ask a rep what would happen to our pay if we were given a bankrupcy contract. (hint, it will actually go up). Our "peers" are other airbus drivers. Not the company's business model.
Hands down the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard

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Old Yesterday, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo
Hands down the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard
Not really, the people who spew nonsense that Miatas are sports cars.... THAT'S the dumbest thing...
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Old Yesterday, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo
Hands down the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard
Not my quote. Go ask a union rep keyboard warrior.
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