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Old 09-10-2024, 11:15 AM
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I fail to see what any of this DEI nonsense has to do with the fact that Miatas are sports cars....
I knew you’d see it my way eventually.
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Old 09-10-2024, 11:50 AM
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I knew you’d see it my way eventually.
You almost had me..... 🤣
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Old 09-11-2024, 01:08 PM
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I knew you’d see it my way eventually.
I like how liberals openly want to hire more minorities then when they’re called out on all these minority hires they say no these people arnt hired because they are a minority.

like oh really you don’t have affirmative action or DEI policy at your company? 🤔
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Old 09-11-2024, 03:34 PM
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I like how liberals openly want to hire more minorities then when they’re called out on all these minority hires they say no these people arnt hired because they are a minority.

like oh really you don’t have affirmative action or DEI policy at your company? 🤔

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Old 09-11-2024, 05:46 PM
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I get that they are not the same, but the whole uproar about unqualified and dangerous outcries on here about DEI hires are absolutely the same.

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What is the culture at Alaska about Nep or DEI?

HAL is heavy minority by demo and highest female percentage historically, including credited for having the first all female crew. Nepotisms has been a huge staple of this place….
For DEI, they do the same sort of outreach as other majors, very proactive. Hiring and training, I don't think they cut any slack but others might know better.

Nepotism... in the old days you couldn't even spell Alaska Airlines without the letters N E P O T I S M. You literally needed a "silver bullet" internal rec to get hired. IIRC each pilot had a small number of them, per lifetime. You saved them for your kids, or maybe a kid your sister might have someday if she ever gets married. You didn't hand them out to some dude you met on a JS. That's no longer a formal thing but friends and family is still a huge factor... to get the interview. Again as far as I can tell the standards to get hired are still tight. Obviously the floodgates for interviews opened during the last few years, like everywhere else, but they're probably back to business as usual going forward.
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nice comeback! You really said it! <Sarcasm>
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Old 09-11-2024, 10:07 PM
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For DEI, they do the same sort of outreach as other majors, very proactive. Hiring and training, I don't think they cut any slack but others might know better.

Nepotism... in the old days you couldn't even spell Alaska Airlines without the letters N E P O T I S M. You literally needed a "silver bullet" internal rec to get hired. IIRC each pilot had a small number of them, per lifetime. You saved them for your kids, or maybe a kid your sister might have someday if she ever gets married. You didn't hand them out to some dude you met on a JS. That's no longer a formal thing but friends and family is still a huge factor... to get the interview. Again as far as I can tell the standards to get hired are still tight. Obviously the floodgates for interviews opened during the last few years, like everywhere else, but they're probably back to business as usual going forward.
Actually sounds pretty comparable. Use a Hawaii address some would say for HAL (like even a friend’s) but those days are gone.
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Old 09-12-2024, 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Halon1211
I like how liberals openly want to hire more minorities then when they’re called out on all these minority hires they say no these people arnt hired because they are a minority.

like oh really you don’t have affirmative action or DEI policy at your company? 🤔
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For DEI, they do the same sort of outreach as other majors, very proactive. Hiring and training, I don't think they cut any slack but others might know better.

Nepotism... in the old days you couldn't even spell Alaska Airlines without the letters N E P O T I S M. You literally needed a "silver bullet" internal rec to get hired. IIRC each pilot had a small number of them, per lifetime. You saved them for your kids, or maybe a kid your sister might have someday if she ever gets married. You didn't hand them out to some dude you met on a JS. That's no longer a formal thing but friends and family is still a huge factor... to get the interview. Again as far as I can tell the standards to get hired are still tight. Obviously the floodgates for interviews opened during the last few years, like everywhere else, but they're probably back to business as usual going forward.
I'm no fan of hiring people because they can check a box but it's important to remember at every airline all newhires and upgrades have to pass the same checkrides and the same IOE. To say someone isn't qualified or was pushed through because they can check a box is unfair.
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I'm no fan of hiring people because they can check a box but it's important to remember at every airline all newhires and upgrades have to pass the same checkrides and the same IOE. To say someone isn't qualified or was pushed through because they can check a box is unfair.

Ahhh, you obviously haven’t spent much time in training departments. Ever heard of the United 100hr IOE champions?
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Old 09-12-2024, 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by CatPilot1
Ahhh, you obviously haven’t spent much time in training departments. Ever heard of the United 100hr IOE champions?

Ahhh refuting with an anecdote? That's about as good as the perpetual "I heard some girl was fired on newhire IOE for texting/talking on her phone while taxiing" that pervade every airline. Except nobody ever seems to have first hand knowledge of it.
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