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Old Today, 04:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
Because domicile and seat would be affected, of course.

But I wasn't really talking about you personally so much as a half of a seniority list of FOs you would be jumping over.
domicile ok. I said seat and longevity PAY match. I don’t care where I sit just the pay that comes w it.
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Originally Posted by OOfff
you should care because giving up leverage for nothing doesn’t help the group. unionism 101
Huh? You missed the point.
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Originally Posted by Lincoln Osiris
Someone elses pay doesn't affect you? You must not know how contract negotations work...
You missed the point too.
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Originally Posted by BeechedJet
Ah my bad I did know we were having a fume event.

Make sure to fill out that cabin odor form.
You rang?

National seniority would only work if they set a starting date and said any new, first time 121, pilots are operating under national seniority, existing pilots continue under the current system until retirement... Actually, no, that would really work either. Its never gonna happen.
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Originally Posted by fumeevented
You rang?

National seniority would only work if they set a starting date and said any new, first time 121, pilots are operating under national seniority, existing pilots continue under the current system until retirement... Actually, no, that would really work either. Its never gonna happen.
Yes that's the only way it could work, but...

1) Why would current 121 union pilots even bother to waste their time doing that? It would cost some negotiating capitol and there's not even a consensus that it would be a good thing. If it is a good thing, you'd be wasting NC to benefit CFI's, student pilots, kids in middle school etc.

2) Airlines would not like it.

3) For some RLA reason we aren't even allowed to have one big union, so that would probably have to be changed first.

As you say, never gonna happen.
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Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo
“To the victor goes the spoils”. Pick the right horse and the career will work out fine, otherwise, there will be a starting over point. It is what it is, as a NK guy moving on I don’t like going back to year 1 at the bottom, but this was the risk when I went to Spirit

Likewise because I took a risk on Spirit, and the possible upside, I would not like other pilots from a failed airline coming in over me; whether that means bases, bidding, or higher wages than me.
I sure do hope all the DFW cjo American peeps still plan on beating it! Juniority will rule the day!
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