Spirit Airlines Ch.11
Yesterday, 03:41 AM
#622
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Seems there is room for reasonable people to argue about what conduct might be illegal and whether the enforcement mechanism for such is robust enough to matter.
As for whether Spirit pilots will want to leave - there are quite a few Pan AM, Braniff, Eastern and probably even TWA pilots who would suggest taking a chance. They don't have to take them all. A majority (or even a significant minority quickly enough) would cause chaos.
As for whether Spirit pilots will want to leave - there are quite a few Pan AM, Braniff, Eastern and probably even TWA pilots who would suggest taking a chance. They don't have to take them all. A majority (or even a significant minority quickly enough) would cause chaos.
Yesterday, 05:54 AM
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i ve not researched (and am too lazy to) but would suggest arguing typed pilots have some special value would not be persuasive, since every new pilot joining spirit gets the same spirit-specific, FAA-approved training - so they could replace departing pilots with pilots from the regionals or other sources and have to train them, just like every other carrier
no hiring carrier gets to save training costs and has to run nk bus pilots thru their programs too...it isn't like the hiring company saves $
doubt very much just the fact of hiring pilots (like or not we are more like a commodity in this context than a key employee like a c-level exec or someone with inside proprietary knowledge)
so the whole "hiring pilots away" as a claim idea is not viable imho
of course really really bad conduct by a competitor might be enough to state a claim but no one has alleged any such intent much less identified some
no hiring carrier gets to save training costs and has to run nk bus pilots thru their programs too...it isn't like the hiring company saves $
doubt very much just the fact of hiring pilots (like or not we are more like a commodity in this context than a key employee like a c-level exec or someone with inside proprietary knowledge)
so the whole "hiring pilots away" as a claim idea is not viable imho
of course really really bad conduct by a competitor might be enough to state a claim but no one has alleged any such intent much less identified some
You can also argue that operational experience on type enhances safety, and that is also true if you get into the very fringes of statistics. Very hard to quantify in $ terms but there's an obvious grain of truth if you were looking to score debate points.
Yesterday, 05:57 AM
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Yesterday, 06:01 AM
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But you can't make an absolute statement that any company can target any other for staff raiding, with the primary intent of harming them economically. It's happened before and laws have been pased in at least some places.
Yesterday, 07:09 AM
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No airlines are engaged in "raiding." If you believe otherwise, please post an example, with the attached supporting documentation where a court determined raiding occurred.
Yesterday, 07:22 AM
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When someone can prove United, Delta, American or Southwest started calling their pilots recruiting them then maybe, but if NK pilots just apply on their own at other carriers and get hired there is zero chance this is anti competitive. Even if those airlines hired NK pilots exclusively there is nothing anti-competitive about that either.
Yesterday, 07:43 AM
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https://www.change.org/start-a-petition
#StopSpiritPilotPaoching #YellowPilotLivesMatters
#Endthecruelty
Yesterday, 07:45 AM
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Let’s get a petition going for Spirit Airlines pilots get the same status of elephants and Rino’s.
https://www.change.org/start-a-petition
#StopSpiritPilotPaoching #YellowPilotLivesMatters
#Endthecruelty
https://www.change.org/start-a-petition
#StopSpiritPilotPaoching #YellowPilotLivesMatters
#Endthecruelty
https://youtu.be/9gspElv1yvc?si=jU9oKdGnhUv97KU8
Yesterday, 10:26 AM
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No I don't think any airlines are raiding. The whole discussion came out of somebody speculating that it *might* happen to NK. Which I think is very unlikely for a few reasons.
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