Spirit Airlines Ch.11
10-08-2024, 12:51 PM
#471
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Hawaiian Alaska doesn’t really threaten the big three that much (they way out there on their own ) and even then they seem to have their politicians rooting for them
10-08-2024, 01:53 PM
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that’s not the reason at all. Spirit was competing with the big three and the big three are in bed with all the politicians in Washington. Spirit doesn’t have any political pull.
Hawaiian Alaska doesn’t really threaten the big three that much (they way out there on their own ) and even then they seem to have their politicians rooting for them
Hawaiian Alaska doesn’t really threaten the big three that much (they way out there on their own ) and even then they seem to have their politicians rooting for them
10-08-2024, 03:47 PM
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When they offer seat longevity match for pay at start I’ll get excited and take the seniority hit.
10-08-2024, 05:12 PM
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The others bases that share a legacy hub and are being shrunk (DFW, ORD, DTW) are probably seeing senior CAs leave.
10-08-2024, 09:05 PM
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But the good news for NK pilots is that the court typically will not just dance to the tune of management and slash and burn CBA's... the entyr argument for labor contracts will be "industry average". To get the court to cut deeper than that would require that the managers show very good reason why their industry niche/business model mist have lower labor costs than everyone else. NK seems to be trying to re-invent itself as a "regular" major, not a ULCC...
When the legacies did BK, the industry was flailing across the board. Not so much right now.
10-09-2024, 04:56 AM
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And I’m not sure how valid the “political pull” conspiracy theory goes here. Do you think this administration would side with corporate fat cats over the “scrappy underdog?” Nope. Maybe, just maybe, the proposed merger was tanked due to the judge’s reasoning. The fact that any appeal fizzled out also says something. Or maybe the Big 3 were to blame for that, too? And does the reasoning really matter at this point?
10-09-2024, 06:11 AM
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that’s not the reason at all. Spirit was competing with the big three and the big three are in bed with all the politicians in Washington. Spirit doesn’t have any political pull.
Hawaiian Alaska doesn’t really threaten the big three that much (they way out there on their own ) and even then they seem to have their politicians rooting for them
Hawaiian Alaska doesn’t really threaten the big three that much (they way out there on their own ) and even then they seem to have their politicians rooting for them
Im not throwing shade, I really hope things work out for everyone at NK. It’s never good when there’s a big disruption in the industry.
10-09-2024, 07:28 AM
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Competing with the big 3? Come on now. Spirit has been losing money for quite some time, and the final nail in the coffin was the basic economy fares getting popular at the big 3. After all NKs fees and all, the price point wasn’t that different but with a way more robust route structure. One NK cancellation could cause days worth of headache.
Im not throwing shade, I really hope things work out for everyone at NK. It’s never good when there’s a big disruption in the industry.
Im not throwing shade, I really hope things work out for everyone at NK. It’s never good when there’s a big disruption in the industry.
10-09-2024, 08:14 AM
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Because any business model that decides just to eliminate certain segments of the market is ceding market share for no reason.
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