Spirit Airlines Ch.11
08-21-2024, 03:57 PM
#421
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https://viewfromthewing.com/spirit-airlines-goes-off-the-rails-charging-more-for-first-class-than-delta-and-american-without-the-perks
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thoughts?
I personally don’t really see Spirit really caring about this because this is just a cover to make it look like they’re in LCC now to set up better for merger.
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thoughts?
I personally don’t really see Spirit really caring about this because this is just a cover to make it look like they’re in LCC now to set up better for merger.
United First: 7am LAX departure 1130am return (to/from Newark) $5757
jetBlue Mint: 6am LAX departure 11am return (to/from JFK) $2496
Spirit Go Big: 530am LAX departure 1215pm return (to/from Newark) $676 (rounded up)
08-21-2024, 05:26 PM
#422
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It’s over man. What’s done is done. Time to move on. Nothing will ever change with what happened.
08-21-2024, 05:53 PM
#423
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To answer YOUR question. Probably the same way you compare apples to oranges. Sounds like you weren’t well versed on the law, the reason for the denial, or the details specifically pertaining to the AK/HA merge. Hint: HA flies to a total of 31 destinations and holds approximately 50 aircraft. 2 legacy airlines merging into sparsely populated markets, has no real economic effect on the customer. Hence why the same exact DOJ that sued and went to court for the NK/B6 merger, did not, in this case.
It’s over man. What’s done is done. Time to move on. Nothing will ever change with what happened.
It’s over man. What’s done is done. Time to move on. Nothing will ever change with what happened.
08-21-2024, 05:57 PM
#424
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I don't think any of the big three, and probably southwest as well, would be allowed to fail. the commercial air traffic from those geographic areas would be decimated and it would take at least a couple years for those areas to get it back - assuming a quick liquidation event that would only make the surviving three airlines even bigger and stronger.
I think we witnessed with covid the power of the big four. they had both sides of the aisle bending over backwards to subsidize the entire industry. big labor and big business combined with local governments fighting tooth and nail to maintain air service and connectivity. If say AA were to "fail" and actually have to liquidate, who would buy up their assets? It would likely be DAL and UAL buying the majority of the assets because the business models and economy of scales are so similar. Then you'd have two legacy airlines controlling over half the market.
Governement would bail out one of the legacies again before they would be allowed to liquidate. Restructure the debt, sure that could easily happen. But a true liquidation would not be allowed in my opinion.
I think we witnessed with covid the power of the big four. they had both sides of the aisle bending over backwards to subsidize the entire industry. big labor and big business combined with local governments fighting tooth and nail to maintain air service and connectivity. If say AA were to "fail" and actually have to liquidate, who would buy up their assets? It would likely be DAL and UAL buying the majority of the assets because the business models and economy of scales are so similar. Then you'd have two legacy airlines controlling over half the market.
Governement would bail out one of the legacies again before they would be allowed to liquidate. Restructure the debt, sure that could easily happen. But a true liquidation would not be allowed in my opinion.
08-21-2024, 06:41 PM
#425
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To answer YOUR question. Probably the same way you compare apples to oranges. Sounds like you weren’t well versed on the law, the reason for the denial, or the details specifically pertaining to the AK/HA merge. Hint: HA flies to a total of 31 destinations and holds approximately 50 aircraft. 2 legacy airlines merging into sparsely populated markets, has no real economic effect on the customer. Hence why the same exact DOJ that sued and went to court for the NK/B6 merger, did not, in this case.
It’s over man. What’s done is done. Time to move on. Nothing will ever change with what happened.
It’s over man. What’s done is done. Time to move on. Nothing will ever change with what happened.
08-21-2024, 06:50 PM
#426
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I don't think any of the big three, and probably southwest as well, would be allowed to fail. the commercial air traffic from those geographic areas would be decimated and it would take at least a couple years for those areas to get it back - assuming a quick liquidation event that would only make the surviving three airlines even bigger and stronger.
I think we witnessed with covid the power of the big four. they had both sides of the aisle bending over backwards to subsidize the entire industry. big labor and big business combined with local governments fighting tooth and nail to maintain air service and connectivity. If say AA were to "fail" and actually have to liquidate, who would buy up their assets? It would likely be DAL and UAL buying the majority of the assets because the business models and economy of scales are so similar. Then you'd have two legacy airlines controlling over half the market.
Governement would bail out one of the legacies again before they would be allowed to liquidate. Restructure the debt, sure that could easily happen. But a true liquidation would not be allowed in my opinion.
I think we witnessed with covid the power of the big four. they had both sides of the aisle bending over backwards to subsidize the entire industry. big labor and big business combined with local governments fighting tooth and nail to maintain air service and connectivity. If say AA were to "fail" and actually have to liquidate, who would buy up their assets? It would likely be DAL and UAL buying the majority of the assets because the business models and economy of scales are so similar. Then you'd have two legacy airlines controlling over half the market.
Governement would bail out one of the legacies again before they would be allowed to liquidate. Restructure the debt, sure that could easily happen. But a true liquidation would not be allowed in my opinion.
08-21-2024, 08:55 PM
#427
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So Spirit becomes Essential Air Service? But to an underserved Class rather than city?
08-22-2024, 07:42 AM
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08-23-2024, 12:11 PM
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