The plan going forward
10-13-2024, 06:39 PM
#671
That/It/Thang
Joined APC: Aug 2020
Posts: 2,951
I dont know why so many people are in denial.
The company has told the reps some preliminary numbers. Just like with past displacmenet numbers, those numbers moved some as they finialized their plans. The last furliughs numbers/downgrades moved as well as the finalized.
The company has given the MEC some prelimiary numbers, this is what Sioux is talking about, this is what prompted the MEC to email eveyone telling us to reevaluate our career plans at this airline, "all pilots."
They were supposed to announce the furlough plans a few weeks ago, when the chatter began, but for some reason, they held off for the time being. Perhaps something will be announced next week as it is the last week prior to the bond deadline.
Fact is everything is fluid right now, including CH11 which might be coming next week too. Sticking our heads in the sand like this isnt the "bottom" yet, well thats not reality.
Hope we get a merger announcemnt next week and hope we see some class dates for those of us waiting to start over.
The company has told the reps some preliminary numbers. Just like with past displacmenet numbers, those numbers moved some as they finialized their plans. The last furliughs numbers/downgrades moved as well as the finalized.
The company has given the MEC some prelimiary numbers, this is what Sioux is talking about, this is what prompted the MEC to email eveyone telling us to reevaluate our career plans at this airline, "all pilots."
They were supposed to announce the furlough plans a few weeks ago, when the chatter began, but for some reason, they held off for the time being. Perhaps something will be announced next week as it is the last week prior to the bond deadline.
Fact is everything is fluid right now, including CH11 which might be coming next week too. Sticking our heads in the sand like this isnt the "bottom" yet, well thats not reality.
Hope we get a merger announcemnt next week and hope we see some class dates for those of us waiting to start over.
10-13-2024, 06:42 PM
#672
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2018
Posts: 465
Yup, nobody will know till the reduction bid comes out. Rumors and 50c used to buy a Coke. Speculation is fun.
Maths is also fun.. 215- 50 AOG x 15 is 2475. Our list as of July was roughly 3400. Doesn’t include the roughly 25 AC that is RUMORED to be sold as well.
I hope we’re all wrong though!
Maths is also fun.. 215- 50 AOG x 15 is 2475. Our list as of July was roughly 3400. Doesn’t include the roughly 25 AC that is RUMORED to be sold as well.
I hope we’re all wrong though!
10-14-2024, 05:23 AM
#675
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2018
Posts: 307
I dont know why so many people are in denial.
The company has told the reps some preliminary numbers. Just like with past displacmenet numbers, those numbers moved some as they finialized their plans. The last furliughs numbers/downgrades moved as well as the finalized.
The company has given the MEC some prelimiary numbers, this is what Sioux is talking about, this is what prompted the MEC to email eveyone telling us to reevaluate our career plans at this airline, "all pilots."
They were supposed to announce the furlough plans a few weeks ago, when the chatter began, but for some reason, they held off for the time being. Perhaps something will be announced next week as it is the last week prior to the bond deadline.
Fact is everything is fluid right now, including CH11 which might be coming next week too. Sticking our heads in the sand like this isnt the "bottom" yet, well thats not reality.
Hope we get a merger announcemnt next week and hope we see some class dates for those of us waiting to start over.
The company has told the reps some preliminary numbers. Just like with past displacmenet numbers, those numbers moved some as they finialized their plans. The last furliughs numbers/downgrades moved as well as the finalized.
The company has given the MEC some prelimiary numbers, this is what Sioux is talking about, this is what prompted the MEC to email eveyone telling us to reevaluate our career plans at this airline, "all pilots."
They were supposed to announce the furlough plans a few weeks ago, when the chatter began, but for some reason, they held off for the time being. Perhaps something will be announced next week as it is the last week prior to the bond deadline.
Fact is everything is fluid right now, including CH11 which might be coming next week too. Sticking our heads in the sand like this isnt the "bottom" yet, well thats not reality.
Hope we get a merger announcemnt next week and hope we see some class dates for those of us waiting to start over.
This is correct.
10-14-2024, 05:34 AM
#676
It's 5 o'clock somewhere
Joined APC: Oct 2020
Posts: 2,219
Let’s see how Democrats have helped Trump:
- They have done everything they could to keep him font in the news even after he lost his reelection
- They donated money to pro Trump congressman campaigns in 2022
- They did everything they could to run smear campaigns against anybody who posed a serious challenge to Trump in the Primaries (DeSantis and Haley)
10-14-2024, 06:33 AM
#677
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2013
Position: A320
Posts: 734
I dont know why so many people are in denial.
The company has told the reps some preliminary numbers. Just like with past displacmenet numbers, those numbers moved some as they finialized their plans. The last furliughs numbers/downgrades moved as well as the finalized.
The company has given the MEC some prelimiary numbers, this is what Sioux is talking about, this is what prompted the MEC to email eveyone telling us to reevaluate our career plans at this airline, "all pilots."
They were supposed to announce the furlough plans a few weeks ago, when the chatter began, but for some reason, they held off for the time being. Perhaps something will be announced next week as it is the last week prior to the bond deadline.
Fact is everything is fluid right now, including CH11 which might be coming next week too. Sticking our heads in the sand like this isnt the "bottom" yet, well thats not reality.
Hope we get a merger announcemnt next week and hope we see some class dates for those of us waiting to start over.
The company has told the reps some preliminary numbers. Just like with past displacmenet numbers, those numbers moved some as they finialized their plans. The last furliughs numbers/downgrades moved as well as the finalized.
The company has given the MEC some prelimiary numbers, this is what Sioux is talking about, this is what prompted the MEC to email eveyone telling us to reevaluate our career plans at this airline, "all pilots."
They were supposed to announce the furlough plans a few weeks ago, when the chatter began, but for some reason, they held off for the time being. Perhaps something will be announced next week as it is the last week prior to the bond deadline.
Fact is everything is fluid right now, including CH11 which might be coming next week too. Sticking our heads in the sand like this isnt the "bottom" yet, well thats not reality.
Hope we get a merger announcemnt next week and hope we see some class dates for those of us waiting to start over.
Don't hold your breath for a merger announcement, it ain't happening with the debt situation unresolved. Nobody I've spoken to has their head in the sand about whether we've hit bottom yet (we haven't). There are definitely some that underestimate where the 'bottom' is though.
10-14-2024, 06:42 AM
#678
That/It/Thang
Joined APC: Aug 2020
Posts: 2,951
Don't hold your breath for a merger announcement, it ain't happening with the debt situation unresolved. Nobody I've spoken to has their head in the sand about whether we've hit bottom yet (we haven't). There are definitely some that underestimate where the 'bottom' is though.
I would just ask why the extension on the bond debt?
Could be NK trying to offer more up in collateral?
Could be a package being drafted for a merger with bond holders signing off on refinancing based on a merger.
In the end, my money is still on Frontier (Indigo). They wanted NK for a lot more, it’s dirt cheap now. Indigo has the money to refinance and satisfy the bond holders concerns. Franke purchased Frontier on the cheap, he can’t resist a bargain. And in the end, I think frontier realizes that it will be NK today, and then F9 tomorrow if this goes bad.
Will be a fun week
10-14-2024, 06:48 AM
#679
Almost there
Joined APC: Apr 2021
Posts: 1,324
Merger and the bond debt are not mutually exclusive. The debt can be refinanced by satisfying the bond holders with a merger announcement. They just want some money, they know they won’t get it all.
I would just ask why the extension on the bond debt?
Could be NK trying to offer more up in collateral?
Could be a package being drafted for a merger with bond holders signing off on refinancing based on a merger.
In the end, my money is still on Frontier (Indigo). They wanted NK for a lot more, it’s dirt cheap now. Indigo has the money to refinance and satisfy the bond holders concerns. Franke purchased Frontier on the cheap, he can’t resist a bargain. And in the end, I think frontier realizes that it will be NK today, and then F9 tomorrow if this goes bad.
Will be a fun week
I would just ask why the extension on the bond debt?
Could be NK trying to offer more up in collateral?
Could be a package being drafted for a merger with bond holders signing off on refinancing based on a merger.
In the end, my money is still on Frontier (Indigo). They wanted NK for a lot more, it’s dirt cheap now. Indigo has the money to refinance and satisfy the bond holders concerns. Franke purchased Frontier on the cheap, he can’t resist a bargain. And in the end, I think frontier realizes that it will be NK today, and then F9 tomorrow if this goes bad.
Will be a fun week
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