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Old 07-16-2024, 05:23 PM
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Yeah this place is in a lot of trouble. Remember they originally expected cash positive q2 and q3. They thought their moves with pratt, deferrals, and furloughs etc. would save about a half billion in cash this year. They're already chewing into those supposed savings. Being real, they dont have a way out of this that isn't bankruptcy, and i wouldnt be surprised if that is coming very soon. Can only hope there is something that another company would want enough to assume the kind of debt Ted has created, and then the government would have to approve a bankrutpcy acquisition.

Could see Indigo organizing a deal that results in an asset sell and the remains taken private. I dont think the stock has any chance of avoiding delisting with a bankruptcy, but i also know nothing.

From what i can see, roughly 65% of Spirit aircraft are leased, leaving 35% of the fleet remaining for sell/leaseback or outright sell.
70 NEOs down q1 with a turnaround time nearing 400 days.
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Originally Posted by DrSteveBrule
Yeah this place is in a lot of trouble. Remember they originally expected cash positive q2 and q3. They thought their moves with pratt, deferrals, and furloughs etc. would save about a half billion in cash this year. They're already chewing into those supposed savings. Being real, they dont have a way out of this that isn't bankruptcy, and i wouldnt be surprised if that is coming very soon. Can only hope there is something that another company would want enough to assume the kind of debt Ted has created, and then the government would have to approve a bankrutpcy acquisition.

Could see Indigo organizing a deal that results in an asset sell and the remains taken private. I dont think the stock has any chance of avoiding delisting with a bankruptcy, but i also know nothing.

From what i can see, roughly 65% of Spirit aircraft are leased, leaving 35% of the fleet remaining for sell/leaseback or outright sell.
70 NEOs down q1 with a turnaround time nearing 400 days.
merger is coming…but not the airline you are probably expecting though.
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Old 07-16-2024, 06:54 PM
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[QUOTE=DrSteveBrule;3820648]Yeah this place is in a lot of trouble. Remember they originally expected cash positive q2 and q3. They thought their moves with pratt, deferrals, and furloughs etc. would save about a half billion in cash this year. They're already chewing into those supposed savings. Being real, they dont have a way out of this that isn't bankruptcy, and i wouldnt be surprised if that is coming very soon. Can only hope there is something that another company would want enough to assume the kind of debt Ted has created, and then the government would have to approve a bankrutpcy acquisition.

Could see Indigo organizing a deal that results in an asset sell and the remains taken private. I dont think the stock has any chance of avoiding delisting with a bankruptcy, but i also know nothing.

From what i can see, roughly 65% of Spirit aircraft are leased, leaving 35% of the fleet remaining for sell/leaseback or outright sell.
70 NEOs down q1 with a turnaround time nearing 400 days.[/QUOTE

i hope you’ve kept your CFI going, bc you’re too late on that American train. Mesa is furloughing son; better know how to say yes sir in Spanish bc yo a$$ bottom bit€h lawn mower boyee.
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Originally Posted by DrSteveBrule
Yeah this place is in a lot of trouble. Remember they originally expected cash positive q2 and q3. They thought their moves with pratt, deferrals, and furloughs etc. would save about a half billion in cash this year. They're already chewing into those supposed savings. Being real, they dont have a way out of this that isn't bankruptcy, and i wouldnt be surprised if that is coming very soon. Can only hope there is something that another company would want enough to assume the kind of debt Ted has created, and then the government would have to approve a bankrutpcy acquisition.

Could see Indigo organizing a deal that results in an asset sell and the remains taken private. I dont think the stock has any chance of avoiding delisting with a bankruptcy, but i also know nothing.

From what i can see, roughly 65% of Spirit aircraft are leased, leaving 35% of the fleet remaining for sell/leaseback or outright sell.
70 NEOs down q1 with a turnaround time nearing 400 days.[/QUOTE

i hope you’ve kept your CFI going, bc you’re too late on that American train. Mesa is furloughing son; better know how to say yes sir in Spanish bc yo a$$ bottom bit€h lawn mower boyee.
Take another hit there, son.
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Old 07-17-2024, 03:35 AM
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But hey, looks like another $160 million loss for the quarter! Wasn’t there talk of breaking even at some point? Cash on hand will be gone before we know it.
yeah, it was supposed to be March....
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Originally Posted by DrSteveBrule
Can only hope there is something that another company would want enough to assume the kind of debt Ted has created, and then the government would have to approve a bankrutpcy acquisition.
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Isnt the point of Ch 11 to get rid of all that debt?
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Originally Posted by CatPilot1
Originally Posted by DrSteveBrule
Yeah this place is in a lot of trouble. Remember they originally expected cash positive q2 and q3. They thought their moves with pratt, deferrals, and furloughs etc. would save about a half billion in cash this year. They're already chewing into those supposed savings. Being real, they dont have a way out of this that isn't bankruptcy, and i wouldnt be surprised if that is coming very soon. Can only hope there is something that another company would want enough to assume the kind of debt Ted has created, and then the government would have to approve a bankrutpcy acquisition.

Could see Indigo organizing a deal that results in an asset sell and the remains taken private. I dont think the stock has any chance of avoiding delisting with a bankruptcy, but i also know nothing.

From what i can see, roughly 65% of Spirit aircraft are leased, leaving 35% of the fleet remaining for sell/leaseback or outright sell.
70 NEOs down q1 with a turnaround time nearing 400 days.
i hope you’ve kept your CFI going, bc you’re too late on that American train. Mesa is furloughing son; better know how to say yes sir in Spanish bc yo a$$ bottom bit€h lawn mower boyee.
I’ll wave to you and Halon in the unemployed line while you’re getting food stamps 👋

Walmart is hiring though.
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Originally Posted by checkgear
I’ll wave to you and Halon in the unemployed line while you’re getting food stamps 👋

Walmart is hiring though.
Should we wear our lanyards? "Emailing strong". Lazy starts at the top.

On another note, are there any "family awareness" sorry "free meal" union events coming up? You might want to start freeze drying those.
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Originally Posted by Halon1211
merger is coming…but not the airline you are probably expecting though.
care to share who?
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Originally Posted by Noisecanceller
care to share who?
He’s the village troll, probably thinks we’ll merge with Kalitta
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