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Old 07-12-2024, 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyGuy2021
Honest question...Do you think there is any chance at all that there are pay increases?

Are you expecting massive cuts to QOL benefits? Spirit used to be the place to be for great QOL. I can't imagine that remaining true.
Next contract spirit pilots see will be part of either a merger or ch11. The entire MEC should have been recalled a long time ago.
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Old 07-12-2024, 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by StoneQOLdCrazy
it would appear that unfortunately it will be difficult to bargain from a position of strength at this time. He’ll, management is probably going to be looking for concessions
Is "He'll management" a special negotiating division?!
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Old 07-13-2024, 01:48 AM
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Hey, the bright side is concessionary contracts never take 2.5 years and a strike vote in order to get inked. I expect "This is all the money that the company has to give" (Copyright 2017, 2022) followed by a concessionary TA vote in 3 months.

Stand strong, build our legacy, whatever it takes, and so forth.
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Old 07-13-2024, 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Ed Force One
Hey, the bright side is concessionary contracts never take 2.5 years and a strike vote in order to get inked. I expect "This is all the money that the company has to give" (Copyright 2017, 2022) followed by a concessionary TA vote in 3 months.

Stand strong, build our legacy, whatever it takes, and so forth.
Getting paid 90+ hours to sit at home too.
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Old 07-13-2024, 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by 8JRMfortheyear
Getting paid 90+ hours to sit at home too.
They ain't sitting at home. They are too busy interviewing at legacies since they failed at "building our legacy".
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Old 07-13-2024, 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Lincoln Osiris
Next contract spirit pilots see will be part of either a merger or ch11. The entire MEC should have been recalled a long time ago.
Sooooo, the fact that the merger failed and the company is full steam ahead into bankruptcy is the MEC's fault how, exactly?

Sounds like a few of you are angry that this place is going down the drain and have nowhere else to direct that anger other than pointing fingers at the MEC for something they have ZERO control over.

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Old 07-13-2024, 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Lincoln Osiris
They ain't sitting at home. They are too busy interviewing at legacies since they failed at "building our legacy".
Yeah very true as well. Glad im not the only one that noticed.
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Originally Posted by Judge Smails
Sooooo, the fact that the merger failed and the company is full steam ahead into bankruptcy is the MEC's fault how, exactly?

Sounds like a few of you are angry that this place is going down the drain and have nowhere else to direct that anger other than pointing fingers at the MEC for something they have ZERO control over.
I think its mostly how ALPA leadership behaves when challenged with questions. I would rephrase that most of us are angry at how incompetent this management has been the last decade. Sorry to knock on your ALPA cronies but im glad a "few" are finally seeing the true colors of everyone involved.
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Originally Posted by Judge Smails
Sooooo, the fact that the merger failed and the company is full steam ahead into bankruptcy is the MEC's fault how, exactly?

Sounds like a few of you are angry that this place is going down the drain and have nowhere else to direct that anger other than pointing fingers at the MEC for something they have ZERO control over.
Ah here is one of our 90 hour a month "legacy builders" now. I'll help fill you in. The pilot group is mad because the union sold so hard the "second bite of the apple" sounding like they worked for Ted rather than the pilot group. Lesson #1 in contract negotiations, never expect or sell that there will be a "next time", in this industry especially. The MEC took a chance that there would be a next time, lost, and now they must eat that and look foolish. New blood is needed.
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Originally Posted by 8JRMfortheyear
I think its mostly how ALPA leadership behaves when challenged with questions. I would rephrase that most of us are angry at how incompetent this management has been the last decade. Sorry to knock on your ALPA cronies but im glad a "few" are finally seeing the true colors of everyone involved.
Ok, you explained nothing and gave zero examples. That really clears it up.
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