The plan going forward
06-19-2024, 10:12 AM
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Worth noting that BK companies, even if allowed to reject/modify a CBA do not get carte blanche. Typically the judge will impose an "industry average" contract, although if it were necessary to make the numbers work in the reorganization proposal the court might cut deeper. In this case the company would argue for the average of the ULCC industry (SY, F9, G4, Breeze, Avelo), not the average of DL, UA, AA, and SW.
Courts seem to like snap-back provisions, so you might suck it up for a while and then get some or all of the original contract back after things turn around post-BK.
Also the company has to jump through some hoops before it can even go there with a CBA, and that would take at least some amount of time (11 USC 1113). If the company starts trying to negotiate a concessionary CBA that's a good sign that Ch.11 is right around the corner.
Courts seem to like snap-back provisions, so you might suck it up for a while and then get some or all of the original contract back after things turn around post-BK.
Also the company has to jump through some hoops before it can even go there with a CBA, and that would take at least some amount of time (11 USC 1113). If the company starts trying to negotiate a concessionary CBA that's a good sign that Ch.11 is right around the corner.
Now is different because this is a company specific problem and most other airlines are hiring, so there might be less resistance to accepting a subpar contract.
06-19-2024, 02:56 PM
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Well here is the huge news we were all waiting for!! This is our big plan moving forward that will save us from BK.
https://www.palmbeachpost.com/story/...a/74148263007/
https://www.palmbeachpost.com/story/...a/74148263007/
06-19-2024, 03:03 PM
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Well here is the huge news we were all waiting for!! This is our big plan moving forward that will save us from BK.
https://www.palmbeachpost.com/story/news/local/2024/06/19/spirit-airlines-announces-nonstop-birmingham-alabama-bhm-fort-lauderdale-fll-florida/74148263007/
https://www.palmbeachpost.com/story/news/local/2024/06/19/spirit-airlines-announces-nonstop-birmingham-alabama-bhm-fort-lauderdale-fll-florida/74148263007/
06-19-2024, 03:41 PM
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What confuses me is how they're going to do this new flying with more and more planes being parked. We have new routes from PDX, from SAN, from EWR, now adding BHM. I love seeing new routes and new flights and new cities but I just don't know what their plan is when (as many as) 70 planes are unavailable.
06-19-2024, 03:44 PM
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What confuses me is how they're going to do this new flying with more and more planes being parked. We have new routes from PDX, from SAN, from EWR, now adding BHM. I love seeing new routes and new flights and new cities but I just don't know what their plan is when (as many as) 70 planes are unavailable.
06-19-2024, 04:00 PM
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06-19-2024, 10:05 PM
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What confuses me is how they're going to do this new flying with more and more planes being parked. We have new routes from PDX, from SAN, from EWR, now adding BHM. I love seeing new routes and new flights and new cities but I just don't know what their plan is when (as many as) 70 planes are unavailable.
When they announce new routes they don’t announce publicly the ones we pull out of. Many are getting canned. We are not making money so MANY city pairs or frequencies are unprofitable.
Its throwing darts at a wall right now.
06-20-2024, 04:33 AM
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the 100 day turnaround is with new parts. They have to manufacture them first which can take up to two years. The 100 turnaround is very miss leading.
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