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Old 01-19-2024, 06:00 AM
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I give it less than 50/50 that JetBlue appeals the ruling, especially given the terms of the way this deal was structured. What I see as more feasible, though still highly unlikely, is JetBlue dropping the deal, renegotiating terms (buyout price, and such), then move forward with a new deal in hopes that a more favorable DOJ is in place and the new agreement wouldn't go to a trial again.
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Old 01-19-2024, 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Halon1211
looks like there is some hope after all


https://finance.yahoo.com/news/exclu...110206763.html
I don't see this as hopeful. If Spirit is having to convince Jetblue to appeal, that means that Jetblue has indicated that they don't want to appeal/they don't think an appeal would be successful. Not saying they won't appeal but, I would be much more hopeful if they were both on the same page.

Not to mention theres a new incoming CEO of Jetblue. If I'm the new CEO of Jetblue, last thing I'd want is the stank of a failed merger dragging on for another year, this seems like a perfect opportunity to pivot away. Or if they are going to play the merger game some more, take a shot at Hawaiian.

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Old 01-19-2024, 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Tranquility
I give it less than 50/50 that JetBlue appeals the ruling, especially given the terms of the way this deal was structured. What I see as more feasible, though still highly unlikely, is JetBlue dropping the deal, renegotiating terms (buyout price, and such), then move forward with a new deal in hopes that a more favorable DOJ is in place and the new agreement wouldn't go to a trial again.
Jetblue might be required by the terms of the merger agreement to appeal and "pursue all legal avenues" to getting this approved.
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Originally Posted by Halon1211
looks like there is some hope after all


https://finance.yahoo.com/news/exclu...110206763.html
I do think a lot of the narrative is shifting away from NK bankruptcy. It was all kicked off by Helane Becker's comments, but now we have insider comments stating they are looking towards refinancing and better guidance.
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Originally Posted by Flika
I don't see this as hopeful. If Spirit is having to convince Jetblue to appeal, that means that Jetblue has indicated that they don't want to appeal/they don't think an appeal would be successful. Not saying they won't appeal but, I would be much more hopeful if they were both on the same page.

Not to mention theres a new incoming CEO of Jetblue. If I'm the new CEO of Jetblue, last thing I'd want is the stank of a failed merger dragging on for another year, this seems like perfect opportunity to pivot away. Or if they are going to play the merger game some more, take a shot at Hawaiian.
Plus, it’s more than likely that this merger is the reason for our present CEO’s illness and departure.
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Old 01-19-2024, 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Tranquility
I give it less than 50/50 that JetBlue appeals the ruling, especially given the terms of the way this deal was structured. What I see as more feasible, though still highly unlikely, is JetBlue dropping the deal, renegotiating terms (buyout price, and such), then move forward with a new deal in hopes that a more favorable DOJ is in place and the new agreement wouldn't go to a trial again.

Both Jetblue AND spirit have to agree not to appeal. It’s in their terms of agreement of the merger.
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Originally Posted by Flyby1206
Jetblue might be required by the terms of the merger agreement to appeal and "pursue all legal avenues" to getting this approved.
This seems the more likely scenario. Drag it out, you have to take care of those "shareholders".
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Plus, it’s more than likely that this merger is the reason for our present CEO’s illness and departure.
Duh, ya think?
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This seems the more likely scenario. Drag it out, you have to take care of those "shareholders".

Exactly. Why not appeal and you get to delay paying out $470M or you get the merger you wanted. Seems to be no penalty to JB to try and appeal
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Exactly. Why not appeal and you get to delay paying out $470M or you get the merger you wanted. Seems to be no penalty to JB to try and appeal
they have already paid nearly $400 million of that to shareholders. They still owe $70 million to NK directly when deal is officially dead. So they ‘only’ have 70 million left to pay. Give or take a peso or two.
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