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If Delta hires 1,000 pilots next year, whether the hiring mins are high or low is irrelevant. Delta will have no trouble attracting 1,000 pilots to fill its new hire classes. So if you have high time and you’re at Delta, your seniority will increase at a rate of 1,000 next year regardless of the hiring mins. Your seniority does not increase slower. Still adds 1,000 underneath you.
No one is taking delight in other people having a tough time. However, for those of us that have to fly with brand new FOs regularly, there is a sense of relief that the person next to you in the flight deck has some real world experience under their belt.
Those are accurate hiring number projections for Delta in 2025 by the way. 600 of them will be in the first 4 months and then we’ll stop for the summer again. And again, the idea that 1,000 hires is “slow” or a “tough time” for prospective hires is absolutely laughable to those of us who had to play the game back through COVID, Great Recession, age 65, 9-11, blah blah blah. Someone else above advised you to know your audience and read the room. I would second this advice, I can’t stress that enough.
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Putting aside the rancid stench of entitlement that your post reeks of, and the audible eye rolls from everyone reading it, this is also factually incorrect.
If Delta hires 1,000 pilots next year, whether the hiring mins are high or low is irrelevant. Delta will have no trouble attracting 1,000 pilots to fill its new hire classes. So if you have high time and you’re at Delta, your seniority will increase at a rate of 1,000 next year regardless of the hiring mins. Your seniority does not increase slower. Still adds 1,000 underneath you.
No one is taking delight in other people having a tough time. However, for those of us that have to fly with brand new FOs regularly, there is a sense of relief that the person next to you in the flight deck has some real world experience under their belt.
Those are accurate hiring number projections for Delta in 2025 by the way. 600 of them will be in the first 4 months and then we’ll stop for the summer again. And again, the idea that 1,000 hires is “slow” or a “tough time” for prospective hires is absolutely laughable to those of us who had to play the game back through COVID, Great Recession, age 65, 9-11, blah blah blah. Someone else above advised you to know your audience and read the room. I would second this advice, I can’t stress that enough.
If Delta hires 1,000 pilots next year, whether the hiring mins are high or low is irrelevant. Delta will have no trouble attracting 1,000 pilots to fill its new hire classes. So if you have high time and you’re at Delta, your seniority will increase at a rate of 1,000 next year regardless of the hiring mins. Your seniority does not increase slower. Still adds 1,000 underneath you.
No one is taking delight in other people having a tough time. However, for those of us that have to fly with brand new FOs regularly, there is a sense of relief that the person next to you in the flight deck has some real world experience under their belt.
Those are accurate hiring number projections for Delta in 2025 by the way. 600 of them will be in the first 4 months and then we’ll stop for the summer again. And again, the idea that 1,000 hires is “slow” or a “tough time” for prospective hires is absolutely laughable to those of us who had to play the game back through COVID, Great Recession, age 65, 9-11, blah blah blah. Someone else above advised you to know your audience and read the room. I would second this advice, I can’t stress that enough.
How times and perspective has changed.
#87
I honestly think it was harder to get on at Colgan in 2006 than it was to get on at Delta in 2022.
#88
I tell a lot of new hires this who were in high school in 2015. There was a long period when the industry simply didn’t hire. If they did hire it was highly competitive and competitive mins were even more so. This doesn’t even count flows, recalls etc.
I honestly think it was harder to get on at Colgan in 2006 than it was to get on at Delta in 2022.
I honestly think it was harder to get on at Colgan in 2006 than it was to get on at Delta in 2022.
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I tell a lot of new hires this who were in high school in 2015. There was a long period when the industry simply didn’t hire. If they did hire it was highly competitive and competitive mins were even more so. This doesn’t even count flows, recalls etc.
I honestly think it was harder to get on at Colgan in 2006 than it was to get on at Delta in 2022.
I honestly think it was harder to get on at Colgan in 2006 than it was to get on at Delta in 2022.
People would flood the job fairs trying to get some face to face time with the recruiters. In my eagle days, they would send people home from interview just because you missed something in your application, or your log book had more than 10-20hr discrepancy with your AirlineApps.
Allegiant sent me a couple of TBNT letters some time after applying. Delta interview was a month studying like crazy for a 2 day process.
#90
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Correct. I couldn’t get a spot at Spirit job fair because I was lacking TPIC time required to apply at NK. That was after meeting their 4,000 total hrs and 3,000 of those were Part 121!in 2014-2015.
People would flood the job fairs trying to get some face to face time with the recruiters. In my eagle days, they would send people home from interview just because you missed something in your application, or your log book had more than 10-20hr discrepancy with your AirlineApps.
Allegiant sent me a couple of TBNT letters some time after applying. Delta interview was a month studying like crazy for a 2 day process.
People would flood the job fairs trying to get some face to face time with the recruiters. In my eagle days, they would send people home from interview just because you missed something in your application, or your log book had more than 10-20hr discrepancy with your AirlineApps.
Allegiant sent me a couple of TBNT letters some time after applying. Delta interview was a month studying like crazy for a 2 day process.
I know this sounds like a lot of “boomer” “get off my lawn talk” to a younger generation; but the point is, stop complaining, times are still the best they have ever been in decades.
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