Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo

Take hourly rate and multiple by 1000 for line holders to estimate gross pay. Take home is based on everything else that’s unique to each pilot. Some pilots contribute to 401k, some don’t, medical costs differ, tax withholding etc.

Applying at JBLU would do nothing for your seniority if the merger is successful, you’re at the bottom of both sides, doesn’t matter who you get hired with tomorrow.

Based on what your expectations seem to be, I don’t think you would be happy at any 121 when you learn what reserve is, that we have a contract we follow (no coloring outside the lines to suit your needs) and it’s seniority based progression. So no hanging out with the right people to help move the ball. If you think you’re going to see $250k and quality scheduled within 5 years, doubt it. Maybe if you want a junior base like FLL, but for DTW/ORD (if they survive) longer than 5 years for sure.

Originally Posted by NevadaJack

That’s a pretty major sized sacrifice compared to 135/91 QOL

So just under a half decade to see the ROI, ouch

Originally Posted by Jdub2

I’d like to agree with my compatriots here that Spirit is not right for you, and I’d like to suggest that Delta is also not the right fit for you either. Based off a cursory review I would have to say…Mesa? GoJet? Those might be more your speed

Originally Posted by AXNKAA

Especially doing such meaningless and easy flying that we do here in the 121 would.

Originally Posted by NevadaJack

Didn’t mean to offend, how do 121 pilots view their flying?



It’s going to be tuff going from freemarket to working with union pilots who the top of the top used to work for .gov before, talking about how they are down to put in hard work…lolz

Originally Posted by Red Forman

Second time you’ve said this and it isn’t true.

Originally Posted by NevadaJack

What isn’t true? You guys spirit, delta, etc arnt in a union? The most fancy airline (delta) doesn’t have a pilot culture made up, or majorly influenced by ex government employees?

Originally Posted by JulesWinfield

For the most part, you just show up, fly, go home. No emptying the lav, no coffee ice papers, no catering BS. You don’t have to take the job with you, but some people’s lives revolve around being a pilot. I flew 91 and 135 for 5 years before going 121 and while the flying is more mundane, the safety level is higher and stress level is much lower.

Originally Posted by NevadaJack

Tossing some papers on the table and asking for coffee or lav service at the FBO really wasn’t a factor, personally going through a FBO vs a crappy terminal in a crappy city, I’ll happily carry a newspaper or bag of ice lol

I also did a ton of low level flying, I do some more “extreme” by todays standard hobbies, flying the 135 jet I fly now is one of the more safe things I do in my life lol

All and all, the 121 pay after X years seems **** hot, the retirement at many including spirit is quite nice too, hence why I’m somewhat interested at making the jump down to hopefully end up with a jump up

Originally Posted by GrumpyCaptain

Stay in your lane, please don’t come to Spirit. Sincerely NK pilots. I’m just glad HR stays in these forums and your app will be easy to pick out and throw in the trash can.