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Old 09-13-2023, 05:08 PM
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being the tallest midget is not a flex.
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Old 09-13-2023, 06:00 PM
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pretty sure the majority of NK pilots would put their two week notice in the next day! I know I would.
In the only time in modern aviation where it’s literally possible to get hired anywhere in short order, a Frontier merger would be the only thing that would push me to leave all of my Spirit seniority on the table and start over. I think a lot of pilots are ready to click submit on new applications elsewhere if the JetBlue merger does not get approved.

Frontier never!! Also as a shareholder I voted no to Frontier and 100% yes to JetBlue.
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Old 09-13-2023, 07:17 PM
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Out of principle I still hope JetBlue does not get to acquire Spirit. They panicked when F9/NK merger was announced and were told time and time again, thanks but no thanks. Would be awesome to see the judge tell them to go pound sand, having to pay NK 100M and then we merger and become the largest ULCC in the country. That being said, who know what will happen.
In a addition to what others have said, I think this is just factually wrong. JB claims it had approached NK management privately on more than one occasion, and were turned away. Not on the merits, but because NK management were planning or actively working on a sweetheart deal with F9 based on their previous inside relationships. The announcement of the NK+F9 merger, without NK having ever sought any other bidders for the shareholders simply meant JB had to take their offer and campaign public, as it had turned into a now or never situation. That's not "holy moly I'm so scared of NK+F9 let's panick".
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Old 09-13-2023, 07:26 PM
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In a addition to what others have said, I think this is just factually wrong. JB claims it had approached NK management privately on more than one occasion, and were turned away. Not on the merits, but because NK management were planning or actively working on a sweetheart deal with F9 based on their previous inside relationships. The announcement of the NK+F9 merger, without NK having ever sought any other bidders for the shareholders simply meant JB had to take their offer and campaign public, as it had turned into a now or never situation. That's not "holy moly I'm so scared of NK+F9 let's panick".
Yep. It was clear from the outset that the fix was in between F9 management and NK management. Ultimately they decided they were going to lose the shareholder vote anyway and they needed to cut the best deal they could with JB management but F9/NK had sweetheart deal written all over it.
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Originally Posted by Noisecanceller
In the only time in modern aviation where it’s literally possible to get hired anywhere in short order, a Frontier merger would be the only thing that would push me to leave all of my Spirit seniority on the table and start over. I think a lot of pilots are ready to click submit on new applications elsewhere if the JetBlue merger does not get approved.

Frontier never!! Also as a shareholder I voted no to Frontier and 100% yes to JetBlue.
100%. I would hate to give up 13 years, but I will if F9 comes into the picture. JMO, but I believe the B6 deal is about to settle…if not already approved with the DOJ. We will know soon enough.
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Originally Posted by ropestart
100%. I would hate to give up 13 years, but I will if F9 comes into the picture. JMO, but I believe the B6 deal is about to settle…if not already approved with the DOJ. We will know soon enough.

this. And I think the stock prices are indicative of this.
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Old 09-14-2023, 04:25 AM
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this. And I think the stock prices are indicative of this.
I don't entirely doubt a settlement is possible or in the works, but I think the SAVE stock price would be higher if a deal were close. Could be wrong, I was that one time before.
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I read an interesting analysis about motivation for settlement by the DOJ. Because the NEA is in appeal and could take a year or so to resolve in those courts there exists a possibility where Jetblue wins the Spirit judgement in October and then later down the road the NEA ruling is overturned or changed. By the DOJ settling the Spirit case now the DOJ could insist that Jetblue walk away from NEA even if American is successful in their appeal.
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Old 09-14-2023, 04:40 PM
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I read an interesting analysis about motivation for settlement by the DOJ. Because the NEA is in appeal and could take a year or so to resolve in those courts there exists a possibility where Jetblue wins the Spirit judgement in October and then later down the road the NEA ruling is overturned or changed. By the DOJ settling the Spirit case now the DOJ could insist that Jetblue walk away from NEA even if American is successful in their appeal.
Im willing to bet JetBlue has made it clear that if the DOJ sees this case through, and JBLU loses, they will join with AA in the appeal against the NEA ruling. Because if JBLU loses the merger, why wouldn’t they want to get the NEA back?
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Old 09-14-2023, 11:35 PM
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this. And I think the stock prices are indicative of this.
I think the stock prices are down because of this

https://airlineweekly.skift.com/2023...LWAfuQRGcHu6zA
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