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Old 11-03-2023, 05:36 PM
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I wasn't aware that the DOJ made that point. The DOJ should be raked over the coals for not going after those airlines for predatory pricing and the defense should make a motion to immediately dismiss the lawsuit.
Why are you so gung-ho for our merger to succeed?? I’ve followed you for a while, and these latest posts have baffled me….
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So is it going to pass or fail?
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So is it going to pass or fail?
it will pass, and JB/NK will renegotiate an all stock deal
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So is it going to pass or fail?
Its going to win, and Mexico is going to pay for it.
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Originally Posted by 8JRMfortheyear
So is it going to pass or fail?

The market seems to think it’ll fail based on how SAVE has been trending. JBLU was up 12% today, not what we should be seeing if it was trending towards a successful outcome in court for the merger. There’s no way to tell based on some guy in the courtroom tweeting.
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Its going to win, and Mexico is going to pay for it.

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Old 11-03-2023, 07:46 PM
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Alright, who’s the guy that sent Hayes a email or note saying “don’t give up the fight, ….. signed senior FLL capt” 😂
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Originally Posted by 8JRMfortheyear
Alright, who’s the guy that sent Hayes a email or note saying “don’t give up the fight, ….. signed senior FLL capt” 😂
Wait.. what? Lol
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Old 11-03-2023, 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Andy
The DOJ can't make that point. What you're describing is predatory pricing which is illegal. And this would open the DOJ to questions on why they haven't pursued legal action against the Big 3 and anyone else who sells Basic Economy.
Further, it could be argued that Spirit is no longer a going concern due to the predatory pricing that the DOJ has ignored for so many years. The DOJ's lack of enforcement has forced Spirit to seek a merger partner, and therefore the DOJ is the cause of this merger.

Looking forward to hearing your counter to that argument.
Firstly I'll state that I don't necessarily believe these arguments, but am attempting to put myself in the shoes of the DOJ attorneys. If I were them, this is how I would respond to your counter.

It is not predatory pricing for the legacy carriers to adjust their pricing in response to ULCC competition. In fact, that is the very basis of their argument that Spirit must not be allowed to merge with JetBlue because that will decrease competition, which will necessarily cause an increase in prices. That is how a market works.

As for JB/Spirit attorneys arguing that the DOJ is advocating predatory pricing: JB/Spirit are on trial, not the legacy carriers. Would it serve their clients' interests to concede in part to the government's case and argue to the judge that prices are definitely lower with Spirit in existence, and will surely rise with Spirit's demise, but that's okay because the legacies are engaging in predatory pricing (unproven)?

As for the going-concern argument, the government has already argued that is balderdash given the fact that Sprit has been one of the fastest growing airlines lately.

The remainder of the trial will be interesting.
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Originally Posted by SoFloFlyer
Wait.. what? Lol

Heard that a “senior FLL captain” sent a email or a message to b6 ceo that said “ we can’t wait to be with b6, new leader and don’t give up the fight”

LOL
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