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Old 11-01-2023, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by nuball5
You think? It’s hard to read a bunch of tweets and figure out how it’s truly going. JetBlue seems to be playing a lot of defense, while the DOJ has been aggressive. Would like to see the opposite.
except the jetBlue lawyers literally ARE the defense. For the DOJ attorneys, it’s their job to be more aggressive, it’s the defense attorneys jobs to rebut the things that are brought up by the department of justice attorneys. I think that the jetBlue attorneys are doing a fantastic job in my personal opinion.
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Old 11-01-2023, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Born2FlyAv8R
except the jetBlue lawyers literally ARE the defense. For the DOJ attorneys, it’s their job to be more aggressive, it’s the defense attorneys jobs to rebut the things that are brought up by the department of justice attorneys. I think that the jetBlue attorneys are doing a fantastic job in my personal opinion.
Agree 100%
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Originally Posted by nuball5
You think? It’s hard to read a bunch of tweets and figure out how it’s truly going. JetBlue seems to be playing a lot of defense, while the DOJ has been aggressive. Would like to see the opposite.
Doesn't the defense get to call it's witnesses and focus on it's case after the DOJ is done? Right now just crossing as the DOJs witnesses are on the stand.

I think that's correct. I've watched A Few Good Men a couple times. Ok, many times. I couldn't handle the truth.
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Old 11-01-2023, 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver
Doesn't the defense get to call it's witnesses and focus on it's case after the DOJ is done? Right now just crossing as the DOJs witnesses are on the stand.

I think that's correct. I've watched A Few Good Men a couple times. Ok, many times. I couldn't handle the truth.
hahahahahaha awesome! And yup; they go first, we go second. And I learned that on JAG and law and order! I can’t ever handle the truth.
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Old 11-01-2023, 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver
Doesn't the defense get to call it's witnesses and focus on it's case after the DOJ is done? Right now just crossing as the DOJs witnesses are on the stand.

I think that's correct. I've watched A Few Good Men a couple times. Ok, many times. I couldn't handle the truth.
Someone needs to make a parody clip with Ted Christie on the stand 😂

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Old 11-01-2023, 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by nuball5
You think? It’s hard to read a bunch of tweets and figure out how it’s truly going. JetBlue seems to be playing a lot of defense, while the DOJ has been aggressive. Would like to see the opposite.
Also, how exactly does aggressively cross examining executives from your own companies help your case? This isn’t Law&Order where there’s some bombshell confession on the stand or smoking gun DNA exhibit or impassioned closing arguments to tear jerk a jury. This is about clearly laying out facts and statistics to an experienced judge who will then decide whether or not the merger violates the law.
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Old 11-02-2023, 01:23 AM
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Originally Posted by DrSmacFum
If jetblue lawyers work like they did today, the doj will have to save face and settle
DOJ is not going to settle. Their goal is to push the boundaries trying to establish case law in their favor.
Don't forget, trial costs are of no concern to .gov agencies. They are billing the taxpayer.
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Old 11-02-2023, 01:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Born2FlyAv8R
it’s not a lefty judge - it’s a Reagan appointed judge that has already leaned pro business.
thank God it’s not up to the DOJ, now it’s up to the judge.
Dig a little deeper. Don't paint this guy into a left or right box. His overriding concern is preserving the reputation of the judiciary.
Some of his history indicates a right lean, and other indicates a left lean. He doesn't fit in either box.

The big problem that the DOJ has in this case is that the Clayton Act's concern was 'substantially lessening the competition'.
Where Jetblue's team needs to emphasize is that the legacies have gone with Basic Economy fares that are designed to match ULCC fares. These fares need to be considered when one looks at the ULCC pricing model and competition.
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Why doesn’t the DOJ care about FUN?

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Originally Posted by Andy
Dig a little deeper. Don't paint this guy into a left or right box. His overriding concern is preserving the reputation of the judiciary.
Some of his history indicates a right lean, and other indicates a left lean. He doesn't fit in either box.

The big problem that the DOJ has in this case is that the Clayton Act's concern was 'substantially lessening the competition'.
Where Jetblue's team needs to emphasize is that the legacies have gone with Basic Economy fares that are designed to match ULCC fares. These fares need to be considered when one looks at the ULCC pricing model and competition.
Funny you say this, because they talked about this today.
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