JetBlue merger
10-16-2023, 01:20 PM
#302
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10-16-2023, 01:20 PM
#303
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Lets think this out
JBLU offers VILs to provide temporary relief for the NEOs while maintaining your trained workforce in times of desperate need for pilots
JBLU is buying NK, and one reason is pilots. So Robin lets Ted furlough the workforce that he will need to make his new megaLCC toy come to life? No.
10-16-2023, 01:24 PM
#304
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- Spirit is in trouble financially
- Spirit won't be up front about how much trouble is related to NEO engine problems
- Spirit won't explain why they are reducing hiring and upgrades
- Spirit cannot afford to pay pilots any more money. See bullet point one
Last edited by Directautogroup; 10-16-2023 at 01:25 PM. Reason: Added point
10-16-2023, 01:29 PM
#305
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I think you missed his point. The company could be ready to offer 50 hour VILs, but they don’t want to offer them AND other gains in an LOA like JBLU just got with theirs. So you set the stage of disaster and sell the “you’re lucky we can offer 50 hours and only 50. Forget about an LOA with anything else, didn’t you see the side show?”
10-16-2023, 01:32 PM
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10-16-2023, 01:33 PM
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Side show or not, I don’t think we’d be profitable with fuel costs and our current economic situation. Frontier is predicting a loss and they are smaller (better for ULCC’s) with more more efficiency in pilot work rules and lower labor costs. No incentive for them to show a loss. Pilot attrition is not a concern if we are talking about VIL’s. Why in that situation would I think I got duped out of a raise too??? I don’t see how I’m missing the point. Sure, I want a raise and JetBlue got a raise but, I can see how it wouldn’t be beneficial for spirit management to just give us one, they have 0 incentive too.
10-16-2023, 01:35 PM
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VILs make more sense than furloughs. Why would we take less than JBLU….again. Will we get a second bite of the VIL apple if we take 40 hours?
Lets think this out
JBLU offers VILs to provide temporary relief for the NEOs while maintaining your trained workforce in times of desperate need for pilots
JBLU is buying NK, and one reason is pilots. So Robin lets Ted furlough the workforce that he will need to make his new megaLCC toy come to life? No.
Lets think this out
JBLU offers VILs to provide temporary relief for the NEOs while maintaining your trained workforce in times of desperate need for pilots
JBLU is buying NK, and one reason is pilots. So Robin lets Ted furlough the workforce that he will need to make his new megaLCC toy come to life? No.
10-16-2023, 01:39 PM
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Yes, maybe. However from management POV they can offer the raise at the point where it becomes serious. If however the economy takes a turn for the worst they probably don’t want to be locked in to higher wages.
10-16-2023, 01:59 PM
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VILs make more sense than furloughs. Why would we take less than JBLU….again. Will we get a second bite of the VIL apple if we take 40 hours?
Lets think this out
JBLU offers VILs to provide temporary relief for the NEOs while maintaining your trained workforce in times of desperate need for pilots
JBLU is buying NK, and one reason is pilots. So Robin lets Ted furlough the workforce that he will need to make his new megaLCC toy come to life? No.
Lets think this out
JBLU offers VILs to provide temporary relief for the NEOs while maintaining your trained workforce in times of desperate need for pilots
JBLU is buying NK, and one reason is pilots. So Robin lets Ted furlough the workforce that he will need to make his new megaLCC toy come to life? No.
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