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07-05-2023, 10:58 AM
#21
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Joined APC: Dec 2018
Posts: 465
Exactly. Still went ahead and added that they were non-negotiable in the comments section.
07-05-2023, 11:50 AM
#22
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Joined APC: Jan 2018
Posts: 12,203
It’s based on longevity, different longevity gets different rates.
It’s clear our NC and Management used an excel spread sheet when coming up with DOS1 rates and basically adjusting the raises at DOS1, to see total cost, and going from there. There isn’t a universal flat %.
So a 12 year CA will see a 4% raise and a 5 year CA will see the 7.5%
We are still trying to fix the horrendous slope of the 2010 contract, trying to shallow it out over each contract. I don’t like this variable % increase, but they (NC) will tell you it’s trying to fix the slope against a management that doesn’t want to.
It’s clear our NC and Management used an excel spread sheet when coming up with DOS1 rates and basically adjusting the raises at DOS1, to see total cost, and going from there. There isn’t a universal flat %.
So a 12 year CA will see a 4% raise and a 5 year CA will see the 7.5%
We are still trying to fix the horrendous slope of the 2010 contract, trying to shallow it out over each contract. I don’t like this variable % increase, but they (NC) will tell you it’s trying to fix the slope against a management that doesn’t want to.
07-05-2023, 01:12 PM
#23
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Joined APC: Oct 2022
Position: Switch it up
Posts: 81
Good. I sure hope the JetBlue pilot group gets it. This is 100% worth [labor_action_not_allowed_to_talk_about] over. Honestly, I'll probably go somewhere else if we lose either DTZ or the grid rules. it's very powerful for guys like me who like to determine their own schedule.
07-05-2023, 03:33 PM
#24
That/It/Thang
Joined APC: Aug 2020
Posts: 2,954
Good. I sure hope the JetBlue pilot group gets it. This is 100% worth [labor_action_not_allowed_to_talk_about] over. Honestly, I'll probably go somewhere else if we lose either DTZ or the grid rules. it's very powerful for guys like me who like to determine their own schedule.
07-05-2023, 04:43 PM
#25
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Joined APC: Oct 2022
Position: Switch it up
Posts: 81
Is the ability to shape your schedule as good at a legacy? I have several friends at each and I'm not convinced it is. The red/green requirement is more important than drop to zero, but they have a synergistic effect on what you can do. If we lose either, it'll be a significant blow to QOL. I'll prob go back to contract flying, or do something else entirely. And yes, I'm serious. It's that important to me.
07-05-2023, 07:36 PM
#29
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Posts: 97
07-05-2023, 08:31 PM
#30
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Joined APC: Sep 2017
Position: NK CA
Posts: 856
Definity should not have to give it up. However, it seems the majority of our pilot group is more than happy to take far LESS than industry standard compensation as long as they can drop trips.
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