Originally Posted by careerch8nger

I actually don't have an end goal (outside of 121 in general), but I was just wanting to confirm that they were hiring wet ATP's (or even just ATP writtens) to begin with before going and knocking it out. It wasn't so much about the money, just wanting to make sure that it wouldn't be a waste in the sense I wouldn't get an interview and then would get it paid for a few months later. So I'll head to Dallas next week and knock it out! Being able to potentially stay west coast for me is a bigger priority now.

Originally Posted by skytrekker

You say you are going to Dallas. Are you doing the ATP CTP course through ATP Flight School using the AFG Sim facility? Will they be using the Airbus 320 for the SIM portion? Are you familiar with the ATP JET course? Two different courses but if done in the A320 SIM will give you a leg up on newhire training if hired at NK.

Originally Posted by skytrekker

You say you are going to Dallas. Are you doing the ATP CTP course through ATP Flight School using the AFG Sim facility? Will they be using the Airbus 320 for the SIM portion?

Originally Posted by careerch8nger

Yes doing it with ATP Flight school in Dallas – I believe it's largely Airbus sims?

Originally Posted by RemoveB4flght

Yes, a small number of people are doing it, so what. Flew with a kid the other day just barely past his ATP mins, never seen someone working harder. Organized, sharp, valued every bit of advice and I could tell he had done the same with previous captains. Yes sir, no sir, sheet…. I’ll bet if I had told him to go downstairs and run ten laps around the plane he would have done it without hesitation. It’s not about the ego boost, it’s that he realized the tremendous opportunity and at the same time just how much he doesn’t know about so many things. That attitude is the difference between guys who are future captains in the making and guys who just learn how to “FO”.

Point is, this isn’t a cost/benefit analysis, sooner or later you’ll have to put in the time. The way this industry is moving, it will put you in a seat you aren’t ready for, left and right. Not every pilot has the maturity or lack of entitlement to realize that, and it will translate to the safety record in coming years.

If you’re that hesitant to pay for an ATP that would most likely secure you a ULCC interview, then I’d imagine your true goal is a legacy job. That’s cool, everyone should strive for what they want and I hope you find your way. Im actually kind of enjoying the fact that these grizzled legacy instructors and captains get to shoulder the burden of shaping and molding the fresh meat. For too long their FNG’s were 35-40 y/o veterans of the lower rungs of 121 ops, and now they get to teach things like crosswind landings and how to talk on the radio.

Originally Posted by Concorde001

Engineering career guy trying to make a come back to aviation, and it doesn't seem easy! I left a regional 8 years ago with just an ATP/CL65 (100hrs in type). I wanted to restart at a regional but they are not hirings FOs. I don't think I am qualified for a ULCC, so maybe 135 is the only option at this point...

Originally Posted by Concorde001

Engineering career guy trying to make a come back to aviation, and it doesn't seem easy! I left a regional 8 years ago with just an ATP/CL65 (100hrs in type). I wanted to restart at a regional but they are not hirings FOs. I don't think I am qualified for a ULCC, so maybe 135 is the only option at this point...

Originally Posted by WPAV8

I recently interviewed and got a CJO with just the ATP written completed.