Interviews with ATP Written Only?
#22
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This ^ once you’ve got a job, it’s great. And obviously it’s way better than it has been historically. But it’s not as simple as “just go to a regional because training here is hard”.
There aren’t enough captains at the regionals, so no 1500 hour cfis are getting hired. It’s either ULCC or sit and wait and hope for the best. If they’re willing to bet on themselves, I’d say go for it, as long as they know what they’re getting into.
There aren’t enough captains at the regionals, so no 1500 hour cfis are getting hired. It’s either ULCC or sit and wait and hope for the best. If they’re willing to bet on themselves, I’d say go for it, as long as they know what they’re getting into.
#23
Oh I don’t doubt our training program would spit some people out. But the fact of the matter is it’s not so easy to just go to a regional anymore either. Not saying spirit is a great choice, but sitting around doing nothing but continuing to instruct until a regional eventually gets around to your name (if ever before they just fold) isn’t great either. The industry isn’t in a great spot for 1500 hour cfis right now
#24
Anecdotally, a few friends of mine were told to apply, but not expect an interview for a few months. If offered a CJO, not to expect a class date until Q3 at the earliest (most like Q4 or even Q1 of 2024). I suggested that they go 135 until a regional or a major calls. Time will tell, but one thing is certain. This industry can change from one day to the next.
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Sorry I've been flying a bunch and just caught up...I don't doubt it would be a ton and that I definitely need more experience, so I was hoping to hear some success (or failure) stories of people who might have attempted this. I know I'm not the world's best pilot as an MEI and I don't expect it would be a seamless transition.
I do have CJO's from several regionals, but the dates are decently far out. Couple that with bases I don't love, 90 days of training, and little flying on reserve, it will be almost a year until I'm actually flying with some regularity. So even to wait for my ATP and then jump would cost me months.
I'm currently an MEI yes, no airline experience. I do have a lot of experience with intense certification programs from a past in finance, and while that's definitely not a 1:1 (obviously I wasn't flying, but from a quantity of information standpoint), I think I'm pretty successful in "drinking from the firehose" situations.
I'm not saying I think I'm ready for an Airbus, but at the same time if they are willing to hire me sooner, it seems worth investigating. I'm not trying to skip the regionals per se, and I understand most people need the regionals to transition you to jets, then you jump with your ATP to an ULCC (now)...but again the timeline is so far out and I'm already past ATP mins, so just exploring all options at this point.
I do have CJO's from several regionals, but the dates are decently far out. Couple that with bases I don't love, 90 days of training, and little flying on reserve, it will be almost a year until I'm actually flying with some regularity. So even to wait for my ATP and then jump would cost me months.
I'm currently an MEI yes, no airline experience. I do have a lot of experience with intense certification programs from a past in finance, and while that's definitely not a 1:1 (obviously I wasn't flying, but from a quantity of information standpoint), I think I'm pretty successful in "drinking from the firehose" situations.
I'm not saying I think I'm ready for an Airbus, but at the same time if they are willing to hire me sooner, it seems worth investigating. I'm not trying to skip the regionals per se, and I understand most people need the regionals to transition you to jets, then you jump with your ATP to an ULCC (now)...but again the timeline is so far out and I'm already past ATP mins, so just exploring all options at this point.
Last edited by careerch8nger; 02-17-2023 at 06:55 PM.
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#29
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The regionals have basically no way to get captains because the second they can upgrade someone, they’re gone to a legacy, and almost no amount of pay can fix that.
#30
The regionals career flow demographics have totally changed since COVID.
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