Biden Administration Moving to Block Merger
#81
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There is no actual “back to the table” if the JB merger fails and two years has gone by. In reality we will be “negotiating” but nothing will happen and they will announce a frontier merger at which point we will get nothing and then try to squeeze blood from a turnip with frontier, so again, nothing. Then the exodus begins and I hope I’m gone early.
This has nothing to do with our contract passing but just what will happen if the JB merger fails
This is our contract until a JCBA with JetBlue or a strike with frontier. Period
This has nothing to do with our contract passing but just what will happen if the JB merger fails
This is our contract until a JCBA with JetBlue or a strike with frontier. Period
#82
That’s exactly it. If we voted it down we are back on 2018 rates unless all of the “what ifs” you mentioned happen. Facts are, if we voted it down, we are 2018 rates. What rates do you think we have if we voted it down? There is no guarantee of what you “feel” will happen. The only fact is voting down the tA puts us at 2018 rates UNLESS other pieces move.
We would only be on 2018 if all of those thing HAD happened. YOUR assumption is that those things WOULD definitely have happened. That is every bit as much of your feels as it is mine.
#83
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That’s exactly it. If we voted it down we are back on 2018 rates unless all of the “what ifs” you mentioned happen. Facts are, if we voted it down, we are 2018 rates. What rates do you think we have if we voted it down? There is no guarantee of what you “feel” will happen. The only fact is voting down the tA puts us at 2018 rates UNLESS other pieces move.
Not getting a $20 raise and still be $20-30 behind what the market rate is. But I guess it's better than 2018 rates right? That's what some of the guys here are trying to say. No one is losing sleep for not being the "highest paid".
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some good news for the jetblue Spirit Merger!
The judge assigned to the case seems to be favorable.
Edit:
since this judge seems to be favorable towards businesses, hopefully it won’t go to trial and he’ll give it a summary judgment.
some good news for the jetblue Spirit Merger!
The judge assigned to the case seems to be favorable.
Edit:
since this judge seems to be favorable towards businesses, hopefully it won’t go to trial and he’ll give it a summary judgment.
Last edited by Halon1211; 03-08-2023 at 07:51 AM.
#85
To tell you the truth, if I had to follow this logic everytime a payrate vote is placed infront of me, I would be voting yes everytime. Else I will be on the old rate right? Completely disregarding what the market rate is trending towards, as long as the new rate is more than the old rate, right? I and, I believe, a lot of others is not really looking for "The best paid A320 pilots since slice bread". I know it's a talking point just to make others look unreasonable, but just stop. What everyone want, or should want, is market rate. Period. That includes being within $2 or $3 of UAL, AA, DAL, SWA. Profit sharing etc. MARKET RATE.
Not getting a $20 raise and still be $20-30 behind what the market rate is. But I guess it's better than 2018 rates right? That's what some of the guys here are trying to say. No one is losing sleep for not being the "highest paid".
Not getting a $20 raise and still be $20-30 behind what the market rate is. But I guess it's better than 2018 rates right? That's what some of the guys here are trying to say. No one is losing sleep for not being the "highest paid".
#87
Not with this pilots groups mentality. "Yea but its more money than what we currently make!" BS argument with our NC selling whatever daddy Ted tells them to sell.
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https://stocks.apple.com/AvndrE1jFQCq2p5utVNRptQ
some good news for the jetblue Spirit Merger!
The judge assigned to the case seems to be favorable.
Edit:
since this judge seems to be favorable towards businesses, hopefully it won’t go to trial and he’ll give it a summary judgment.
some good news for the jetblue Spirit Merger!
The judge assigned to the case seems to be favorable.
Edit:
since this judge seems to be favorable towards businesses, hopefully it won’t go to trial and he’ll give it a summary judgment.
https://www.politico.com/video/2023/...-merger-853255
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Except the DOT/Buttigieg said that he’s not going to transfer the Spirit FAA Operating Agreement over if the merger is approved by the courts. Which is under his sole ability administratively.
https://www.politico.com/video/2023/...-merger-853255
https://www.politico.com/video/2023/...-merger-853255
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