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Old 01-20-2023, 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Lincoln Osiris
Those are a lot of excuses you had to work through to justify being content as a low tier pilot.
So what is your excuse for being at NK?
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Old 01-21-2023, 04:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Lincoln Osiris
1) When you've been here about 2 minuets and couldn't even vote you sure talk a lot and 2) When even ALIGANT management put out higher payrates than us and their negotiating committee actually had the balls to tell them no you bet your ass I can call each and every yes voter a happy content low tier pilot.
What makes you think we are going to get RS? Fact is, NO ONE knows what will happen or how it will happen.
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Old 01-21-2023, 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Tranquility;[url=tel:3574431
3574431[/url]]It’s not money for nothing…. The union gave up potential leverage if the merger fails. When I saw that in Frontier’s contract, I’m like, why the hell would someone agree to that?! And yet, here we are…. I pray the merger closes, and we can kick Ted and Bendo, and all the like to the curb! If it doesn’t, we’re ****ed on sooooo many levels….

Man, this “leverage” you speak of, clearly isn’t leverage. Otherwise you’d already have gotten what you want. They (management) don’t care and never will. The “we gave something up” mentality has been debunked. Not a single pilot at NK, goes home at the end of the day, looking down at his cracked dirty hands and food stamp application and says, “thanks to this TA - my day is now harder”.

Because HE literally gave nothing up. If your day is harder and you’re paid less as a direct result of giving up so called leverage, I don’t know what to tell you.
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Old 01-21-2023, 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted by symbian simian
So what is your excuse for being at NK?
Are you seriously that deaf to how the airline world works? Are is your only rebuttal to someone who wants better for the pilot group is to gO To DeLtA?
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Old 01-21-2023, 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by 8JRMfortheyear
What makes you think we are going to get RS? Fact is, NO ONE knows what will happen or how it will happen.
RS?


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Relative seniority
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Originally Posted by 8JRMfortheyear
What makes you think we are going to get RS? Fact is, NO ONE knows what will happen or how it will happen.
Wtf are you talking about?
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Old 01-21-2023, 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Lincoln Osiris
Are you seriously that deaf to how the airline world works? Are is your only rebuttal to someone who wants better for the pilot group is to gO To DeLtA?
No, I think after 25 years I have a pretty good grasp. In 25 years NK has not been close to any legacy contract, at least as far as pay goes. Not expecting that to change isn't defeatist, it's being a realist. Voting the TA down would just have delayed it more than we could recoup, and that is assuming we would get more. I don't believe it's worth the wait. You are free to find that defeatist, but you are a minority.
In 2017 we were a lot further from DL than we are now.
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Originally Posted by symbian simian
No, I think after 25 years I have a pretty good grasp. In 25 years NK has not been close to any legacy contract, at least as far as pay goes. Not expecting that to change isn't defeatist, it's being a realist. Voting the TA down would just have delayed it more than we could recoup, and that is assuming we would get more. I don't believe it's worth the wait. You are free to find that defeatist, but you are a minority.
In 2017 we were a lot further from DL than we are now.
Why are you using 2017 of all years to make your looser mentality defeatist argument?
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