Spirit vs big 3
01-09-2023, 03:45 PM
#61
The REAL Bluedriver
Joined APC: Sep 2011
Position: Airbus Capt
Posts: 6,920
It's interesting our upgrade times are so similar as Blue's FO and CA attrition are statistically more moderate than NK's.
01-09-2023, 06:13 PM
#62
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2007
Position: A320
Posts: 1,317
I do live in base. But that shouldn’t matter if you are a line holder.
01-09-2023, 07:30 PM
#63
Reserve Life
Joined APC: May 2018
Position: FO
Posts: 31
Able to do what? Have significant time off? I hear people from other airlines claim to have the same option but I'm almost positive NKS ability to drop trips (when you’re a line holder) is superior to other places. Like I said, the big 3 are going to pay you. But they also own you. At least until you get a few years of seniority.
I do live in base. But that shouldn’t matter if you are a line holder.
I do live in base. But that shouldn’t matter if you are a line holder.
For example, January bid award came out with a bunch of 3 and 4-day trips with one redeye. I was able to swap and drop all of it and turned it into an 87 credit hour, 15 day off line with all day trips, except for one pesky two-day. I get to be at home with my 6 month old daughter every night and enjoy life. I’m not leaving NK.
01-09-2023, 07:40 PM
#64
Line Holder
Joined APC: Mar 2022
Posts: 72
To add to this, I’ve been on property for a little over a year. I’ve had a line for half that time. Because of my seniority, when my monthly bid award comes out, I usually get close to nothing I ask for (day trips, certain days off). Most months, with a green reserve grid, I am able to rearrange my entire month and get what I want.
For example, January bid award came out with a bunch of 3 and 4-day trips with one redeye. I was able to swap and drop all of it and turned it into an 87 credit hour, 15 day off line with all day trips, except for one pesky two-day. I get to be at home with my 6 month old daughter every night and enjoy life. I’m not leaving NK.
For example, January bid award came out with a bunch of 3 and 4-day trips with one redeye. I was able to swap and drop all of it and turned it into an 87 credit hour, 15 day off line with all day trips, except for one pesky two-day. I get to be at home with my 6 month old daughter every night and enjoy life. I’m not leaving NK.
01-10-2023, 07:49 AM
#65
Perennial Reserve
Joined APC: Jan 2018
Posts: 12,203
Depends on how badly the MEC fights to keep it in the JCBA. Or what JetBlue management is willing to give for it. Barring a bankruptcy contract or at least the threat of one, it’s hard for management to take things away, even in normal times - which this definitely ain’t. It’s the JetBlue pilots and MEC that we need to convince of the value of Spirit rules.
01-10-2023, 08:46 AM
#67
Line Holder
Joined APC: Mar 2018
Posts: 91
I think we can all say we hope everyone who voted yes is right and can say I told you so.
We can't even convince the company of the value of us as a pilot group. I doubt JetBlue will or there pilot group should have any respect for us at this point
We can't even convince the company of the value of us as a pilot group. I doubt JetBlue will or there pilot group should have any respect for us at this point
01-10-2023, 09:01 AM
#68
That/It/Thang
Joined APC: Aug 2020
Posts: 2,954
Don’t worry, theirs will pass handsomely too this month and we can decide how much they cared about NK respect with their yes vote.
Grow up kids, this isn’t a popularity contest with other airlines.
01-10-2023, 09:09 AM
#69
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2009
Position: Airplane
Posts: 2,385
I’m not sure why the consternation, the teeth gnashing or the “other pilot groups will look down on us”, the passing of this TA literally added $50K to my annual pay with ZERO concessions, absolutely no change in my schedule and and no change in my work rules.
01-10-2023, 09:16 AM
#70
That/It/Thang
Joined APC: Aug 2020
Posts: 2,954
Amazing how simple it is. Without even factoring in the other issues, it’s that simple. Straight cash in everyone’s check Jan 31
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