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Old 12-15-2022, 06:02 PM
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Yeah, I hope it's a fortune, B6.

I was a solid maybe before. Let's see how far they get down field.
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Old 12-15-2022, 06:32 PM
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Opinions vary, no doubt.

12 year 320 CA:

$320 March 23

$330 Aug 23 (with snap-up to average of DL, UAL, AA, SWA, ALK)

$340 Aug 24 (with same snap-up)

12 year A320 FO:

221/228/235

17k bonus CA
11k bonus FO
A little more per diem, I think $2.65 domestic $3.20 international. (Going by memory) and some incremental increases.

A little more monthly parking reimbursement, a little more uniform allowance, a little more medical certificate reimbursement.

Some other small changes to training, etc...

I don't know how to paste all the pay tables.

I guess bottom line is we are about 18 mos from near parity with the big 4 and ALK, on pat rates anyway.

Not good enough for me, but it's something.

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Old 12-15-2022, 06:43 PM
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Tried to post rates, failed.
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Old 12-15-2022, 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver
Tried to post rates, failed.
https://pdfhost.io/v/e8ubYEkxR_PayRateTables
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Old 12-15-2022, 06:45 PM
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Thanks. You win.
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Old 12-15-2022, 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver
Opinions vary, no doubt.

12 year 320 CA:

$320 March 23

$330 Aug 23 (with snap-up to average of DL, UAL, AA, SWA, ALK)

$340 Aug 24 (with same snap-up)

12 year A320 FO:

221/228/235

17k bonus CA
11k bonus FO
A little more per diem, I think $2.65 domestic $3.20 international. (Going by memory) and some incremental increases.

A little more monthly parking reimbursement, a little more uniform allowance, a little more medical certificate reimbursement.

Some other small changes to training, etc...

I don't know how to paste all the pay tables.

I guess bottom line is we are about 18 mos from near parity with the big 4 and All, on pat rates anyway.

Not good enough for me, but it's something.

not good enough??? Top captain $320/hour X 82 hours/month that making ≈$315,000 a year and that’s not good enough…Wow what a time to be alive
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Old 12-15-2022, 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Halon1211
not good enough??? $320/hour X 82 hours/month that making ≈$315,000 a year and that’s not good enough…Wow what a time to be alive
Yea it’s called having balls. You should get some sometime.
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Old 12-15-2022, 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Lincoln Osiris
Yea it’s called having balls. You should get some sometime.
oh yeah having balls? Go on…
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Old 12-15-2022, 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Halon1211
not good enough??? Top captain $320/hour X 82 hours/month that making ≈$315,000 a year and that’s not good enough…Wow what a time to be alive
You forgot 401k DC and perdiem.
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Old 12-15-2022, 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Halon1211
not good enough??? Top captain $320/hour X 82 hours/month that making ≈$315,000 a year and that’s not good enough…Wow what a time to be alive
My expectation was rates a bit better than this, plus improvements to our profit sharing plan, you know, like all my peers. The snap-up helps with the rates, for sure, and the bonus helps with the profit sharing, at least for the next two years. But after that it's big losses relative to my peers.

It will take some time, but hopefully eventually you will stop seeing yourself as Mr. Discount Pilot Guy.

As you can see from our snap-up, JB pilots intend to be in the hunt with the top 4-5 passenger airlines, although admittedly they are taking a couple years to get there fully'ish.

What a time to be a PILOT.
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