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12-09-2022, 02:39 PM
#82
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Joined APC: Sep 2017
Position: NK CA
Posts: 856
yeah man they are at the table but not to shoot themselves in the foot with JB JCBA you can always pivot.
but who cares vote it down maybe you all will get everything you want and I hope you do but I don’t really see it working out that way…
i just don’t see why you wouldn’t take the win and hold them to the fire for JCBA?
but who cares vote it down maybe you all will get everything you want and I hope you do but I don’t really see it working out that way…
i just don’t see why you wouldn’t take the win and hold them to the fire for JCBA?
12-09-2022, 02:45 PM
#83
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Joined APC: Sep 2008
Position: Pilot
Posts: 100
What a joke
Real Inflation is roughly 20% since the November 2020 election ……. So the roughly 15% pay “increase” we are being offered is actually about a 5% PAY CUT compared to two years ago…… INFLATION. INFLATION.
INFLATION combined with already LOW PAY will not stop attrition…….these rates show Spirit is not serious about paying our pilots industry standards and might actually increase attrition
How about an actual raise?? We will continue to be underpaid for maybe four or five more years before a Possible merger contract is completed?
I hope people are smart enough to reject this ridiculous offer!
INFLATION combined with already LOW PAY will not stop attrition…….these rates show Spirit is not serious about paying our pilots industry standards and might actually increase attrition
How about an actual raise?? We will continue to be underpaid for maybe four or five more years before a Possible merger contract is completed?
I hope people are smart enough to reject this ridiculous offer!
Last edited by thor55; 12-09-2022 at 03:09 PM.
12-09-2022, 02:47 PM
#85
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Joined APC: Mar 2016
Posts: 612
maybe because this isn’t a full contract? Just maybe? Can’t wait till all these new kids from ATP get to be involved with contract negotiations…
12-09-2022, 02:47 PM
#86
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12-09-2022, 02:50 PM
#88
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12-09-2022, 02:55 PM
#89
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Position: NK CA
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Then you should know better and the fact that I have to explain it to you is really really sad. Where do you even currently work?
12-09-2022, 02:59 PM
#90
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Joined APC: Jan 2014
Position: Yellow Bus
Posts: 355
Go for it, you have a vote. Just don’t be surprised when you’re making the least in the 121 industry for the next two years instead of more than any other LCC (minus southwest if you count them). I’ve said it before, but with a JCBA and a merger in the very near future, we are just in a different place than a lot of these airlines, and the union is trying to balance time and money.
well merger in 2025. If it goes through. And JCBA 2026-2027. So not that near. Whatever we get we will be stuck with til 2026 BEST CASE. What will be A320 rates those years? 360-370 everywhere. Meanwhile we are at 312. This sucks. Vote no. Management can’t afford to keep losing pilots. They will come back to table in a few months with 2024 rates immediately and 5-6% on top of that for 2024. We need 312 top on 2023 and 330 top on 2024. And slope needs to be <4$
I’m year 7. And 271 DOS is awful
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