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Old 12-28-2022, 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Irishblackbird
I mean that's why we have to accept this industry lagging TA. So snap up won't be an issue.
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Dude put the KoolAid down already……we don’t have to accept sh|t. If you want to sell yourself short then go ahead

You sound like that other chest pumping yes voter CB in AIP chat…….
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Old 12-28-2022, 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by SpeedBrakes
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Dude put the KoolAid down already……we don’t have to accept sh|t. If you want to sell yourself short then go ahead
Sometimes sarcasm is so hard to express on a message board. Otherwise I'm gonna say it went right over your head.
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Old 12-28-2022, 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Irishblackbird
Sometimes sarcasm is so hard to express on a message board. Otherwise I'm gonna say it went right over your head.
My bad I guess it did
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Old 12-29-2022, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Irishblackbird
If the merger falls through, there won't be a "next few years" for Spirit. At least according to the union and management's rosey picture of our financial state. I mean that's why we have to accept this industry lagging TA. So snap up won't be an issue.
Correct. If and when the JB merger falls through, it will be right back into the arms of Frontier, who is waiting ever so patiently for NK management to make this happen. .
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Old 12-29-2022, 03:08 PM
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Correct. If and when the JB merger falls through, it will be right back into the arms of Frontier, who is waiting ever so patiently for NK management to make this happen. .
Which makes me wonder how this TA works into their plan to scuttle this JetBlue merger so they can finally get what they want at frontier.

Zero effing way I’m going to work for frontier so this question is important.
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Old 12-29-2022, 04:06 PM
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Which makes me wonder how this TA works into their plan to scuttle this JetBlue merger so they can finally get what they want at frontier.

Zero effing way I’m going to work for frontier so this question is important.
Yeah it doesn’t really work that way. Once our c-suite secured their golden parachutes with B6, there’s no incentive to torpedo the deal, especially with shareholders having voted.
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Old 12-29-2022, 05:49 PM
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If anything, the TA makes it less appealing for Franke. He loves cheap labor so a TA that adds $140m a year in labor isn’t his preference. That’s also the annual cost year after year while he would try to drag out a JCBA with Frontier.

That’s also the rates we would have over F9 in a JCBA, helping our SLI argument on SLI integration.

That’s also money in our pockets while Franke drags out JCBA


But sure, vote no because it isn’t fair. Or we think of the long game and how this can go south quickly if the merger fails.
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Old 12-29-2022, 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo
If anything, the TA makes it less appealing for Franke. He loves cheap labor so a TA that adds $140m a year in labor isn’t his preference. That’s also the annual cost year after year while he would try to drag out a JCBA with Frontier.

That’s also the rates we would have over F9 in a JCBA, helping our SLI argument on SLI integration.

That’s also money in our pockets while Franke drags out JCBA


But sure, vote no because it isn’t fair. Or we think of the long game and how this can go south quickly if the merger fails.
Reasonable points all. With a snap-up you’d have me convinced. But now I am back on the fence. Because as much as I’d like the JB deal to go through, it’s not a slam-dunk with DOJ.
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Old 12-29-2022, 10:58 PM
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Reasonable points all. With a snap-up you’d have me convinced. But now I am back on the fence. Because as much as I’d like the JB deal to go through, it’s not a slam-dunk with DOJ.
I too have no want to work for F9. That being said I feel that by the time we get to the doj our company is going to have been run so badly and lost so much money and pilots that a case could be made that if JB didn’t buy us we would go under. IMO the weaker nk is when they get to the doj the better chance the merger has of being approved.
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Old 12-29-2022, 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
Reasonable points all. With a snap-up you’d have me convinced. But now I am back on the fence. Because as much as I’d like the JB deal to go through, it’s not a slam-dunk with DOJ.
I'm no acumen of business or law, but if memory serves me right, much larger airlines that were much more impactful to the industry and market have merged. Thereby setting a precedent. These deals would not have progressed to their present state had politicians in the pockets of Institutional holders like Goldman Sachs, Vanguard, and BlackRock not greenlighted the deal.
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