Originally Posted by Noisecanceller

Not my problem. I’m not financing this company in the best pilot market in history. Fuel bill seems to get paid and the pilot bill will too

Originally Posted by Halon1211

haha not your problem?!?! Well by the looks of things, it is your problem.

some people need a reality check on how the world works! You sounds like a selfish and spoiled 13 yo brat!

Originally Posted by Noisecanceller

I got news for you. Most of the highest paid people I know are some of the most unreasonable. They wear people down to get what they want. It’s time we stop being reasonable push overs

Originally Posted by Halon1211

if the bean counters determine that it’s actually cheaper to park airplanes than it is to pay pilots Delta wages, then maybe they don’t want to pay us more. I think you’re the stupid one actually

Originally Posted by SlimBob

The vote ends in 3 weeks. Just educate yourself and make a decision. Spirit has no desire to jack up rates if we're staying since CBA bargaining would open up immediately. They have no desire to jack up rates if we're leaving because we're leaving and that would be JB's job. SLI is a concern for us and there is an argument to be made for saying yes or saying no. If you think we'll all be wearing blue shirts soon then it's easy to say yes, but saying no might get us a few bucks and if that works then maybe it will help in SLI. If you think we're going to be flying yellow busses after this deal is dead then there's an argument to say yes while we renegotiate or say no and maybe we get a few more bucks if we say no at the risk of a full Section 6. There's risk for a yes and risk for a no. December 9 was a big date to many here who wanted a TA by then... And then DL numbers came out. I feel like this TA missed the mark but by how much? Enough to take the deal and run? Stand your ground? If you're like me you've changed your mind a few times. Time to wait for this to play out over the New Year and then make a decision. I don't care how you vote, but don't do it emotionally.

Originally Posted by dfwflyboy

Everyone’s gotta make their own informed decision. Clearly our rates are very low and not market by any means. I’m a no vote. Don’t need to go to a roadshow to hear them spout some propaganda. They haven’t had a roadshow yet after JBU TA. Nothing they say can make me vote yes for this. But to each their own. Spirit CANNOT go too long without first year pay raise. We absolutely will not go into TPA with 2018 rates. AA is having a TA in Jan along with very reputable rumors (if such a thing exists) that wholly owned will get AA seniority #s to stop them from leaving for other airlines. Spirit is not giving us a pay raise out of the goodness of their heart. They NEED this more than we do. So I’m a no vote. And I’m confident they'll come back with much higher. Also. Don’t listen to the crap about this is the best they can offer. It’s managements job to find the money. Raise ticket price. Ancillary fees. Wi-Fi. Whatever they gotta do. That’s not my problem. I know my worth. And our TA is a slap in my face. Union guys are trying to sell a turd to us. Make your own informed decision


don’t forget. Spirit is among the lowest paid majors in the country. They need to staff. They’ll do whatever they have to.

Originally Posted by Lincoln Osiris

So much of that was so incorrect wow. I hope the majority of our pilot group is more educated than this.

Originally Posted by SlimBob

What is incorrect? I hope the majority or our pilot group is more educated than me too. But here you are lobbing hand grenades at someone who is trying to make some sense of this. You're offering nothing.

Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo

That is all he does. He usually comes back with something clever like “you’re a management troll” or “you’re stupid,” with a 50% chance be misspells “stupid”.

You would have a better chance discussing this TA with your pet.