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12-12-2022, 04:07 AM
#401
New Hire
Joined APC: Oct 2022
Posts: 4
Because if you don’t accept this we will be literally on the bottom for the next 12 months maybe longer. You all talk about retention, well this will make it worse as the new guys will see that our fellow colleagues are screwing them over for their own benefit. Why would a new guy now come for $60 an hour when even the regionals pay higher?
12-12-2022, 05:23 AM
#402
Perennial Reserve
Joined APC: Jan 2018
Posts: 12,203
if they paid $150 x 75 it would help to keep new people coming in the door and then they would have no reason to offer the rest of the group more money. It’s a balance dude… paying people to stay is far more important than paying people to show up if you’re part of this pilot group. 100 + first year with benefits day 1 and CA pay around 300 plus is the contract you want. I want new hires to get what they deserve but no at the expense of those who have actually put in the work here.
12-12-2022, 05:28 AM
#403
Perennial Reserve
Joined APC: Jan 2018
Posts: 12,203
And Spirit, with a two year limited agreement, will have at least one and likely two more bites at the apple before the other contracts being negotiated today have their next opening.
12-12-2022, 05:46 AM
#404
Line Holder
Joined APC: Mar 2018
Posts: 91
Probably so but with little to no bargaining power because we will give the company what they need in this ta
12-12-2022, 05:56 AM
#405
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2016
Posts: 933
Everyone you listed, except Frontier, are currently in negotiations to get better rates (and you know this), but yet you still choose to compare your NEW AIP rates to old rates of other companies.
Genuine question, Why do you choose to do this?
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12-12-2022, 06:30 AM
#406
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2022
Posts: 182
I know you know better. The most crappy thing one can do is give half truth. It's what the media is all about these days, and it helps no one (other than the agenda of the one giving the info)
Everyone you listed, except Frontier, are currently in negotiations to get better rates (and you know this), but yet you still choose to compare your NEW AIP rates to old rates of other companies.
Genuine question, Why do you choose to do this?
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Everyone you listed, except Frontier, are currently in negotiations to get better rates (and you know this), but yet you still choose to compare your NEW AIP rates to old rates of other companies.
Genuine question, Why do you choose to do this?
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12-12-2022, 07:03 AM
#407
Line Holder
Joined APC: Nov 2019
Posts: 76
We shall see. If the TA fails, we will send them back in to get the change left on the table they forgot to ask about.
12-12-2022, 09:18 AM
#409
CA-ORD
Joined APC: Mar 2022
Posts: 175
Same guys last round that probably only looked at pay, and hit YES vote (neglecting all other stuff in the CBA/TA).
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