Halon1211

Game over??? Lol what are we all going to die.

the hysteria!!!

SpeedBrakes

So I should blame you for the crappy reserve rules we currently have?

SirHelios

Bingo.
Eat the cookie now, yum, but then we don't get to eat three cookies later.

Lakeaffect

Or you could just take some responsibility for your own life, nobody forced you to stay here for 4 + years. I don’t expect you to vote for my best interests. I look at the whole contract and vote accordingly. Not based on a single issue.

ZooKeeper

he probably has to many failures to leave.

dualinput

Dude get lost

SoFloFlyer

I’m still a little confused. The union said that at least JB rates plus some is the goal and that was exactly what they delivered.

If this was communicated before, why did no one say anything to them? Hoping someone can fill in the blanks for me

JulesWinfield

When did they say this was the goal?

sugarcookie

I'm thinking that NK vs JBLU pay scale will be a consideration when the arbitrators try and come up with fair and equitable integrated seniority list if the purchase of NK goes through. The pilot group with the higher pay should have more leverage as it pertains to career expectations with that being a point for a more favorable seniority list integration method. JBLU snap up clause should be added.

FlippingCups

I believe quite a few did, myself included. But, yes that was the goal at the beginning, then Alaska came through with theirs and changed things. I and most people I know contacted our reps and wanted to make it known that the Alaska TA changes things and we expected to be at or near Alaska (at the very worst inside $10hr, both seats years 1-12). in some areas we are $25-$30hr behind Alaska. In reality we should be comparing ourselves to Alaska just like UAL compares themselves to DAL. Even the lousy UAL MEC sent out a message to their pilots on 12/5 saying they are directing their NC to withdraw their proposal due to DAL AIP. But we kept plowing forward with the original JB + a few bucks when Alaska got theirs. Hopefully that filled in the blanks for you. Just because you didn't speak up doesn't mean many of us didn't.

Pilot contracts are alot like single family homes... If your neighbor down the street with similar sq ft, floor plan sells his home for $200k 2 weeks ago that now becomes a "sales comp" but the sales comp before that was 2 months ago that sold at $180k, you are wanting to use the $200k comp to put your house on the market, not the $180k it really is the same. The market changes quickly once a new sales comp comes in or in our case a TA gets ratified.