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12-09-2022, 04:20 PM
#101
CA-ORD
Joined APC: Mar 2022
Posts: 175
Exactly right! 426 FOs gone YTD, less than 71 CAs. This TA is for FOs and it does nothing to address that. Training pay industry lacking and an insult. No medical insurance for 90 days. It’s a horrific first attempt. They need to start over and try again. Getting hired almost anywhere else would yield significant gains financially for a prospective new FO here.
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Why would someone what to come here / stay here? For the low tier pay and spotty wifi on our planes? Must be for the "High Fives"
12-09-2022, 04:23 PM
#102
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2022
Posts: 182
Must be some good grass they are smoking if they think these pay rates for FO's are going to bring new blood here, let alone retain any of them. Pure trash, here are the #'s side by side with Alaska.
Why would someone what to come here / stay here? For the low tier pay and spotty wifi on our planes? Must be for the "High Fives"
Why would someone what to come here / stay here? For the low tier pay and spotty wifi on our planes? Must be for the "High Fives"
12-09-2022, 04:26 PM
#103
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2018
Posts: 465
Must be some good grass they are smoking if they think these pay rates for FO's are going to bring new blood here, let alone retain any of them. Pure trash, here are the #'s side by side with Alaska.
Why would someone what to come here / stay here? For the low tier pay and spotty wifi on our planes? Must be for the "High Fives"
Why would someone what to come here / stay here? For the low tier pay and spotty wifi on our planes? Must be for the "High Fives"
321 override. Your chart is bs.
12-09-2022, 04:28 PM
#105
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2016
Posts: 612
Must be some good grass they are smoking if they think these pay rates for FO's are going to bring new blood here, let alone retain any of them. Pure trash, here are the #'s side by side with Alaska.
Why would someone what to come here / stay here? For the low tier pay and spotty wifi on our planes? Must be for the "High Fives"
Why would someone what to come here / stay here? For the low tier pay and spotty wifi on our planes? Must be for the "High Fives"
12-09-2022, 04:33 PM
#106
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2017
Posts: 3,283
dude you need to get back on your meds!!! Please let you family and doctor know too! Get help!
12-09-2022, 04:39 PM
#107
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2015
Posts: 468
Must be some good grass they are smoking if they think these pay rates for FO's are going to bring new blood here, let alone retain any of them. Pure trash, here are the #'s side by side with Alaska.
Why would someone what to come here / stay here? For the low tier pay and spotty wifi on our planes? Must be for the "High Fives"
Why would someone what to come here / stay here? For the low tier pay and spotty wifi on our planes? Must be for the "High Fives"
yeah this chart is inaccurate flame-baiting. 1/1/23
AK 10 year CA $300
NK 10 year CA proposed $291
took them 3 years to get that and us 3 months to get within striking distance of that.. wanna wait 6,8,18 months more to get that $9 and maybe another $9??
and if you really wanna make your blood boil : 1/1/23
NK 10 CA $291
UA 10 CA $279.
im underwhelmed by this proposal. And I’m not advocating yay or nay. It could be better but I’m not exactly jumping off a bridge either. I try to call balls and strikes when I see them … that chart was way outside the zone…
12-09-2022, 04:41 PM
#108
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2017
Position: NK CA
Posts: 856
yeah this chart is inaccurate flame-baiting. 1/1/23
AK 10 year CA $300
NK 10 year CA proposed $291
took them 3 years to get that and us 3 months to get within striking distance of that.. wanna wait 6,8,18 months more to get that $9 and maybe another $9??
and if you really wanna make your blood boil : 1/1/23
NK 10 CA $291
UA 10 CA $279.
im underwhelmed by this proposal. And I’m not advocating yay or nay. It could be better but I’m not exactly jumping off a bridge either. I try to call balls and strikes when I see them … that chart was way outside the zone…
AK 10 year CA $300
NK 10 year CA proposed $291
took them 3 years to get that and us 3 months to get within striking distance of that.. wanna wait 6,8,18 months more to get that $9 and maybe another $9??
and if you really wanna make your blood boil : 1/1/23
NK 10 CA $291
UA 10 CA $279.
im underwhelmed by this proposal. And I’m not advocating yay or nay. It could be better but I’m not exactly jumping off a bridge either. I try to call balls and strikes when I see them … that chart was way outside the zone…
12-09-2022, 04:42 PM
#109
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2021
Posts: 1,035
And $318 for both DOS+1.
It’s a solid deal if the baseline is what the MEC and NC said all along it was, which was as close to Alaska as possible. It’s a bad deal if the baseline is delta. Can we get to delta rates? Maybe after a year or two of MEC recalls and stalled out negotiations while we lose hundreds of pilots. We will see.
It’s a solid deal if the baseline is what the MEC and NC said all along it was, which was as close to Alaska as possible. It’s a bad deal if the baseline is delta. Can we get to delta rates? Maybe after a year or two of MEC recalls and stalled out negotiations while we lose hundreds of pilots. We will see.
BTW Alaska has snap up to legacy. We do not
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