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12-14-2022, 03:57 PM
#402
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Posts: 1,333
It shows how badly a contract is needed to solve an issue at both of our airlines. If Frontier and Spirit merged they would have needed to solve that issue fairly quickly in order to staff the airline and grow as they planned. Not to mention the pesky problem of actually completing a merger. Thought that was fairly obvious.
12-14-2022, 04:41 PM
#403
That/It/Thang
Joined APC: Aug 2020
Posts: 2,954
It shows how badly a contract is needed to solve an issue at both of our airlines. If Frontier and Spirit merged they would have needed to solve that issue fairly quickly in order to staff the airline and grow as they planned. Not to mention the pesky problem of actually completing a merger. Thought that was fairly obvious.
2) Franke wont do anything "quick," and I doubt that guy would give the contract that many on here are wanting, just to merge the airlines. This isnt like JBlu where you have 2 different airline business models, Franke runs many ULCC carriers and I dont think for a second he would feel he "needed to solve" any issue quickly.
3) If attrition is so bad at F9, where is the contract to address that? Probably because (see #1 and #2 above)
Again, love the pilots at F9, but cant stand that management group.
12-14-2022, 05:00 PM
#404
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2021
Posts: 1,035
1) Thank God the F9 merger died. Nothing against the F9 pilots, want to work with them, but cant stand that management
2) Franke wont do anything "quick," and I doubt that guy would give the contract that many on here are wanting, just to merge the airlines. This isnt like JBlu where you have 2 different airline business models, Franke runs many ULCC carriers and I dont think for a second he would feel he "needed to solve" any issue quickly.
3) If attrition is so bad at F9, where is the contract to address that? Probably because (see #1 and #2 above)
Again, love the pilots at F9, but cant stand that management group.
2) Franke wont do anything "quick," and I doubt that guy would give the contract that many on here are wanting, just to merge the airlines. This isnt like JBlu where you have 2 different airline business models, Franke runs many ULCC carriers and I dont think for a second he would feel he "needed to solve" any issue quickly.
3) If attrition is so bad at F9, where is the contract to address that? Probably because (see #1 and #2 above)
Again, love the pilots at F9, but cant stand that management group.
12-14-2022, 05:55 PM
#405
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2018
Posts: 417
1) Thank God the F9 merger died. Nothing against the F9 pilots, want to work with them, but cant stand that management
2) Franke wont do anything "quick," and I doubt that guy would give the contract that many on here are wanting, just to merge the airlines. This isnt like JBlu where you have 2 different airline business models, Franke runs many ULCC carriers and I dont think for a second he would feel he "needed to solve" any issue quickly.
3) If attrition is so bad at F9, where is the contract to address that? Probably because (see #1 and #2 above)
Again, love the pilots at F9, but cant stand that management group.
2) Franke wont do anything "quick," and I doubt that guy would give the contract that many on here are wanting, just to merge the airlines. This isnt like JBlu where you have 2 different airline business models, Franke runs many ULCC carriers and I dont think for a second he would feel he "needed to solve" any issue quickly.
3) If attrition is so bad at F9, where is the contract to address that? Probably because (see #1 and #2 above)
Again, love the pilots at F9, but cant stand that management group.
12-14-2022, 06:20 PM
#406
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Joined APC: Sep 2014
Posts: 511
I was a F9 cheerleader until I saw how easily NK pilots can be bribed. If we were to negotiate a JCBA with F9, we would have been the largest lowest paid airbus drivers hands down. Now, I hope the B6 guy take notes on whats heading their way.
12-14-2022, 08:45 PM
#407
Almost there
Joined APC: Apr 2021
Posts: 1,333
If you want our attrition numbers just scroll up where I posted them already. If you want exact numbers by month I have those too. I really enjoy squashing hearsay with actual data. All good.
All in all I look forward to everybody else getting their raise prior to Frontier. Gives us a goal to meet or beat. Hopefully my teammates are as ready to fight for it as much as I am. In unity.
12-14-2022, 10:17 PM
#408
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Joined APC: Mar 2019
Posts: 134
Oh I read it alright. Only a year to go until our contract is up for renewal….you got me….
If you want our attrition numbers just scroll up where I posted them already. If you want exact numbers by month I have those too. I really enjoy squashing hearsay with actual data. All good.
All in all I look forward to everybody else getting their raise prior to Frontier. Gives us a goal to meet or beat. Hopefully my teammates are as ready to fight for it as much as I am. In unity.
If you want our attrition numbers just scroll up where I posted them already. If you want exact numbers by month I have those too. I really enjoy squashing hearsay with actual data. All good.
All in all I look forward to everybody else getting their raise prior to Frontier. Gives us a goal to meet or beat. Hopefully my teammates are as ready to fight for it as much as I am. In unity.
frankie ain’t giving you nothing.
12-14-2022, 11:42 PM
#409
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2018
Posts: 120
JetBlue first year guys have been making $90 plus an hour for the last four years. They seem to have survived without screwing over their junior people.
And their 12 year 320 CAs make $283 +16% DC - and that’s their CURRENT contract. Again, without screwing over there newbies.
And their 12 year 320 CAs make $283 +16% DC - and that’s their CURRENT contract. Again, without screwing over there newbies.
12-15-2022, 03:45 AM
#410
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Joined APC: Oct 2017
Posts: 3,283
I’m voting NO unless they get $190 for first year pay even during training. Full health and pet insurance from day one as well.
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