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Old 12-11-2022, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by FahQ2
I’m fine with always being on ghetto end of every terminal. With all that in mind, there is an updated market cost for what it costs to crew a narrowbody N-registered jet, and no one here can sell me on the idea that any QOL should make me feel comfortable accepting less than that market rate.
Avianca flies N registered jets.
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Old 12-11-2022, 11:00 AM
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The override pay is a joke. It’s definitely not a guarantee. I like how the union and company are advising it’s an additional 2 percent raise. Thats definitely not the case. It’s done off of block hours and if anyone even looks at the percentage of hours we are getting for the last few years it has never reach 2 percent. I just look at mine for this up coming pay period and we are actually getting 1.58%. So when you do the math it’s not $306 an hour as advertised it’s actually $304 an hour. I know we are supposed to get more 321 this next year but those will be a wash with all the extra 320 we are also getting. Our union does a great job with smoke and mirrors on every TA they have ever brought to the pilot group.


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Old 12-11-2022, 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Bgood
Then let Spirit come up to legacy rates too. After all, the legacies haven't had a pay raise in 4 years.

And you can damn well bet B6 stood up in cold ass NY on the streets and demanded it for most of that journey to legacy rates. You get what you want when you demand it, not settle for what the company is willing to offer. Go to sleep.

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You exceeded current legacy pay rates with your AIP.
Bragging about matching 4 year old pay rates isn't saying much for B6
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Old 12-11-2022, 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by HardPassSpa
The override pay is a joke. It’s definitely not a guarantee. I like how the union and company are advising it’s an additional 2 percent raise. Thats definitely not the case. It’s done off of block hours and if anyone even looks at the percentage of hours we are getting for the last few years it has never reach 2 percent. I just look at mine for this up coming pay period and we are actually getting 1.58%. So when you do the math it’s not $306 an hour as advertised it’s actually $304 an hour. I know we are supposed to get more 321 this next year but those will be a wash with all the extra 320 we are also getting. Our union does a great job with smoke and mirrors on every TA they have ever brought to the pilot group.


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I’m glad someone else noticed our override hasn’t hit 2 percent in years.
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Old 12-11-2022, 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by GPullR
You exceeded current legacy pay rates with your AIP.
Bragging about matching 4 year old pay rates isn't saying much for B6
Sorry, but no. B6 current contract was ratified 5 years ago, has more or less matched legacy contracts that were ratified 5 years ago. Our new TA will exceed the OLD legacy and OLD B6 contract.

I guarantee B6 is gonna be similar to the new legacy TA’s when they come out, which will be much better than ours.
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JetBlues focused TA is going to blow us out of the water and we are going to look like chumps
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Old 12-12-2022, 04:10 AM
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JetBlues focused TA is going to blow us out of the water and we are going to look like chumps
snap up would have been nice…..
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snap up would have been nice…..
It’s not too late
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Old 12-12-2022, 04:39 AM
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I think the negotiating committee intends to include an increase to jetBlue rates as part of the transition process agreement (just reading the tea leaves, most likely wrong).

Does anyone know if there is precedent in prior mergers for that to happen? Hopefully they will be more clear on what they intend to fight for in a TPA.
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It’s not too late
good point
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