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12-10-2022, 08:07 PM
#321
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Hopefully he/she gets picked up by AA and becomes their problem. Being salty and negative is a basic requirement over there.
12-10-2022, 08:43 PM
#322
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You haters are loud, and I think I might agree with most of you. But consider this--You want to vote no because of how it's not good enough for you. Maybe you should vote yes because you see how this deal won't help the company solve attrition, will get you paid, and that we will be back at the table next year. If you believe this is just the beginning of the pilot shortage then voting yes will get you paid and not solve attrition. Then the next time at the table we have more leverage and we got paid.
12-10-2022, 09:14 PM
#324
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Joined APC: Mar 2018
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You haters are loud, and I think I might agree with most of you. But consider this--You want to vote no because of how it's not good enough for you. Maybe you should vote yes because you see how this deal won't help the company solve attrition, will get you paid, and that we will be back at the table next year. If you believe this is just the beginning of the pilot shortage then voting yes will get you paid and not solve attrition. Then the next time at the table we have more leverage and we got paid.
12-10-2022, 09:21 PM
#325
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Those chats may have a lot of members but it’s the same 20-30 blow hards repeating themselves over and over trying to rally people to vote no.
Almost everyone in my class say they’ll vote yes. I expect this to pass probably in the high 60% range maybe more depending on how the road shows go.
Almost everyone in my class say they’ll vote yes. I expect this to pass probably in the high 60% range maybe more depending on how the road shows go.
12-11-2022, 03:55 AM
#326
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the best part is the guys yelling on the Chats not to include the 321 override because they “hardly fly it and don’t get it…
12-11-2022, 05:08 AM
#327
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as a 10yr CA here I’d take this T/A over AA anyday, lol. This T/A is incredibly underwhelming but there does seem to be more of an emotional reaction to it than a logical one. What’s kind of funny is if mgmt would have just agreed to this a month or two earlier, it easily passes, lol, not sure if it passes now. Either way, Funny to see everyone angry at $318/hr (Slope is still not fixed) for top of scale in Jan ‘24 with Red/Green intact while our company is hemorrhaging cash (no fault of our own) Shows how far this industry has come from a few years ago.
the best part is the guys yelling on the Chats not to include the 321 override because they “hardly fly it and don’t get it…
the best part is the guys yelling on the Chats not to include the 321 override because they “hardly fly it and don’t get it…
This was the risk of a compensation only deal, it forces people to only look at compensation as a comparison vs the entire contract. This passes because in the end I know the majority of people like to complain but still vote to take the easy cash, we have demonstrated that before.
12-11-2022, 05:35 AM
#328
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That’s what makes this so funny, the hysteria. Sprinkle in the ineptness of someone thinking the 321 rate is only paid if you fly the 321, well that sounds just like the Spirit I know.
This was the risk of a compensation only deal, it forces people to only look at compensation as a comparison vs the entire contract. This passes because in the end I know the majority of people like to complain but still vote to take the easy cash, we have demonstrated that before.
This was the risk of a compensation only deal, it forces people to only look at compensation as a comparison vs the entire contract. This passes because in the end I know the majority of people like to complain but still vote to take the easy cash, we have demonstrated that before.
12-11-2022, 06:01 AM
#329
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Except this could end backfiring and help the company by giving up any leverage we have. No one here would be "hurting" themselves. We all have liveable wages. What's actually going to hurt the company is not taking the lowest deal we get. They have an attrition problem today and can't keep classes filled today. A cheap buy out is what the company wants. Fight for a big payout now while we can rather then settling.
12-11-2022, 06:06 AM
#330
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As I said earlier, I really admired you guys when you were walking your picket with signs saying Discount Fares, not Discount Pilots. But with all the yes voters coming out of the woodwork, this oldie is for you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qben5MLmtXo
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