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12-09-2022, 04:07 PM
#262
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Okay Mr. Smart Man then riddle me this. If the company was so sure that would fix everything why even be at the table with our MEC before our contract is even amendable??? Why not just give out a new hire bonuses like candy and be done with it and then just drag on our negotiations when it DOES become amendable and drag it on until the JCBA?? Again your bs scare tactics won't work here. We actually have some balls over at NK.
12-09-2022, 04:12 PM
#263
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Joined APC: Sep 2017
Position: NK CA
Posts: 856
If I were to guess, given that they weren’t willing to go higher, they think that these payscales are better for them than bonuses, but at some point, it may be that bonuses make more financial sense. Just a guess. We do have leverage, but ultimately, we can only get paid what management is willing to offer, given that we aren’t anywhere near the end of an RLA process.
12-09-2022, 04:15 PM
#265
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If I were to guess, given that they weren’t willing to go higher, they think that these payscales are better for them than bonuses, but at some point, it may be that bonuses make more financial sense. Just a guess. We do have leverage, but ultimately, we can only get paid what management is willing to offer, given that we aren’t anywhere near the end of an RLA process.
12-09-2022, 04:23 PM
#266
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Joined APC: Dec 2012
Posts: 2,168
Okay Mr. Smart Man then riddle me this. If the company was so sure that would fix everything why even be at the table with our MEC before our contract is even amendable??? Why not just give out a new hire bonuses like candy and be done with it and then just drag on our negotiations when it DOES become amendable and drag it on until the JCBA?? Again your bs scare tactics won't work here. We actually have some balls over at NK.
12-09-2022, 04:42 PM
#267
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Joined APC: Sep 2017
Position: NK CA
Posts: 856
For starters your company is at the table because legally they have to be. Read your early opener language. I can’t remember the last time Alpa didn’t open early when given the opportunity. Second where did I ever mention bonuses fixing first year pay? In no way were those facts meant to be a scare tactic. I’m not sure why it scared you? Most people would see it as giving bonuses might not be legal because I keep telling you it’s being challenged. Good luck.
12-09-2022, 04:47 PM
#268
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Posts: 2,168
I work at f9 but have worked on more than one Alpa agreement. More than likely you have a 6 month early opener? Possibly but unlikely 1 year. The intent is always to get an agreement before the amendable date and just roll into the new agreement. Rarely happens for obvious reasons. I’m just trying to provide some information to your group. You can draw your own conclusions but it is accurate information.
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12-09-2022, 04:55 PM
#269
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Position: NK CA
Posts: 856
I work at f9 but have worked on more than one Alpa agreement. More than likely you have a 6 month early opener? Possibly but unlikely 1 year. I’m just trying to provide some information to your group. You can draw your own conclusions but it is accurate information.
12-09-2022, 04:57 PM
#270
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Joined APC: Sep 2017
Position: NK CA
Posts: 856
I work at f9 but have worked on more than one Alpa agreement. More than likely you have a 6 month early opener? Possibly but unlikely 1 year. I’m just trying to provide some information to your group. You can draw your own conclusions but it is accurate information.
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