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12-09-2022, 03:39 PM
#252
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I agree with what you’re saying. First year is not what’s causing attrition at f9. Having said that this bonus deal before day 1 of class issue has not been resolved. Alpa legal is looking at it due to the fact it’s exceeding first year pay increase of 98.5% of second year language. No idea what ends up happening?
12-09-2022, 03:47 PM
#253
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"If the Company implements a profit-sharing/bonus plan for other employees, pilots shall be included as participants in such plan(s) on the same terms and benefit levels."
12-09-2022, 03:48 PM
#254
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12-09-2022, 03:56 PM
#256
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here’s f9 language. “ pilots of frontier airlines inc. shall participate in any discretionary bonus programs on the same terms and conditions as other non management employees”.
12-09-2022, 03:57 PM
#257
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Frontier worked around that with a preemployment bonus. Does ours protect against that? Baseball is saying rejecting this TA makes us vulnerable to bonuses. Seems to me any bonus before a pilot is on the list is a nifty workaround from that quote of yours.
12-09-2022, 03:59 PM
#258
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Again Sprit's problem is not getting pilots in the door its getting them to stay. And the fear mongering of "oh what if they give out new hire bonuses!?" Should not be used as a scare tactic for your NK peers to accept a garbage TA which WILL have an affect on everyone else with their negotiations going forward including our future JCBA.
12-09-2022, 04:01 PM
#259
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Again Sprit's problem is not getting pilots in the door its getting them to stay. And the fear mongering of "oh what if they give out new hire bonuses!?" Should not be used as a scare tactic for your NK peers to accept a garbage TA which WILL have an affect on everyone else with their negotiations going forward including our future JCBA.
12-09-2022, 04:04 PM
#260
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Okay Mr. Smart Man then riddle me this. If the company was so sure that would fix everything why even be at the table with our MEC before our contract is even amendable??? Why not just give out a new hire bonuses like candy and be done with it and then just drag on our negotiations when it DOES become amendable and drag it on until the JCBA?? Again your bs scare tactics won't work here. We actually have some balls over at NK.
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