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Old 12-09-2022, 05:17 AM
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Originally Posted by YellowBus
Look, this inflation thing is getting out of hand across the board. No one gets raises that match inflation. Not doctors, not lawyers, not McDonald's, etc. etc. etc.
Find me a job field that consistently paces inflation. You can't cuz there isn't one.

This post has nothing to do with whatever rates were about to get handed. This has everything to do with the "doesn't match inflation" claims that have hit these boards so hard lately (and not just the Spirit board)
Um…everyone else in the aviation industry will match or exceed it.
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Old 12-09-2022, 05:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Bgood
That $15/hr is what we currently have at B6 for red eye flying.

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It’s actually $13 at B6, fyi.
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Old 12-09-2022, 05:24 AM
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Take a look at Sun Country rates. Basically got that plus $10. Wasn’t that almost 2 years ago before inflation hike? They have 462 pilots.
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Old 12-09-2022, 05:24 AM
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Originally Posted by PSU Flyer
It’s actually $13 at B6, fyi.
well we currently don’t have an override at NK
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Old 12-09-2022, 05:35 AM
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Originally Posted by SpeedBrakes
New details leaked by LEC person (heard second had in ORD)

1st year $90
2nd year $145
6th year CA $270
12 year CA $305
Company pushing Red Eyes, offering extra $15/hr for those who do them. Guess they want to start doing more red eyes from what i've heard.

Looks like a NO from me.......but need to see complete agreement before making decision.
you “break” new numbers every day it seems.

Thus far you’ve been 100% FOS.

i doubt much has changed.
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Old 12-09-2022, 05:48 AM
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Easy NO vote! Just send it back and copy and paste the Alaska pay scale with the new Alpa proposal... put the ball back in managements court.
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Old 12-09-2022, 05:55 AM
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Originally Posted by FlippingCups
Easy NO vote! Just send it back and copy and paste the Alaska pay scale with the new Alpa proposal... put the ball back in managements court.
That would be almost identical to Alaska DOS. Highly suspect it would pass (although of course APC vote would fail 20-80).
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Old 12-09-2022, 05:56 AM
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Honest question. If a company pays employees the same as others, fuel costs what it does, and aircraft cost what they do, what's makes an lcc work? You can't charge $49 for tickets when your operating costs are the same as everybody. Business model doesn't work. You can only count on so many people not realizing they have to pay for bags.
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Old 12-09-2022, 05:56 AM
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Originally Posted by SpeedBrakes
New details leaked by LEC person (heard second had in ORD)

1st year $90
2nd year $145
6th year CA $270
12 year CA $305
Company pushing Red Eyes, offering extra $15/hr for those who do them. Guess they want to start doing more red eyes from what i've heard.

Looks like a NO from me.......but need to see complete agreement before making decision.

Man we are going to embarrass ourselves if this get past the MEC and put out for a vote.


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Old 12-09-2022, 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by GPullR
Honest question. If a company pays employees the same as others, fuel costs what it does, and aircraft cost what they do, what's makes an lcc work? You can't charge $49 for tickets when your operating costs are the same as everybody. Business model doesn't work. You can only count on so many people not realizing they have to pay for bags.
NK casm is half of Delta as of q3 22 earnings. Revenue is on management, but our costs are significantly lower thanks to volume, "fit fleet", etc. Pay is only one element of their cost advantage. Why does our business model have to be explained?
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