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Old 11-14-2022, 12:10 PM
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Im a first year FO and I can attest to the difficulty with training pay. Guys in my class literally had to save up at their other airlines to afford training pay here. And first year pay after 401k and taxes is coming out to 33k a year. Thats doable for some, but not with a family if you are sole supporter. Honestly its making me look elsewhere because I can't afford to support my family as an FO at a major airline.
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Im a first year FO and I can attest to the difficulty with training pay. Guys in my class literally had to save up at their other airlines to afford training pay here. And first year pay after 401k and taxes is coming out to 33k a year. Thats doable for some, but not with a family if you are sole supporter. Honestly its making me look elsewhere because I can't afford to support my family as an FO at a major airline.
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Originally Posted by FuzzyMulberry12
Im a first year FO and I can attest to the difficulty with training pay. Guys in my class literally had to save up at their other airlines to afford training pay here. And first year pay after 401k and taxes is coming out to 33k a year. Thats doable for some, but not with a family if you are sole supporter. Honestly its making me look elsewhere because I can't afford to support my family as an FO at a major airline.
No offense, but seriously why did you come here if the training pay coupled with first year pay was going to give you that much difficulty?

Every single pilot here has had to go through the joke training pay and low first year pay.

Good news is, everyone is hiring. Put your apps out and you should be able to move on quickly.
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No offense, but seriously why did you come here if the training pay coupled with first year pay was going to give you that much difficulty?

Every single pilot here has had to go through the joke training pay and low first year pay.

Good news is, everyone is hiring. Put your apps out and you should be able to move on quickly.
because its still better than staying at a regional that might not exist in 12 months.
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Old 11-14-2022, 02:29 PM
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Ahhh, Spirit.... The liferaft of regionals that fail.....
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Old 11-14-2022, 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by gripngrab
No offense, but seriously why did you come here if the training pay coupled with first year pay was going to give you that much difficulty?

Every single pilot here has had to go through the joke training pay and low first year pay.

Good news is, everyone is hiring. Put your apps out and you should be able to move on quickly.
This is the tough truth. It’s literally preaching to the choir.
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Old 11-14-2022, 05:27 PM
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If the stupid pilots here could just see if we would give the company immediate relief on first year pay via an LOA, we would vastly improve our negotiating capital. Maybe we could call it a quid. Punishing the newbies for our failures in the last contract is something easily recitified.

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Old 11-14-2022, 08:01 PM
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Every single pilot here has had to go through the joke training pay and low first year pay.
This is always the dumbest argument. It sucked for me so quit yer *****in!!1!
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Old 11-14-2022, 08:04 PM
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This is always the dumbest argument. It sucked for me so quit yer *****in!!1!

Hey, i think he s a scam account. Some management folks created it to spike the heat or something, cus I promise u this guy cannot be a pilot and if you are id love to fly with u!


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Old 11-14-2022, 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by gripngrab
No offense, but seriously why did you come here if the training pay coupled with first year pay was going to give you that much difficulty?

Every single pilot here has had to go through the joke training pay and low first year pay.

Good news is, everyone is hiring. Put your apps out and you should be able to move on quickly.



No offense taken at all man. Honestly I came here because as others have said and everybody already knows, this company is better than being at a regional especially when the music stops and especially with some seniority under the belt. Second year pay obviously makes up for it somewhat. I'd rather fly the bus and have the ability to make more with a decent quality of life eventually. Other than that I'm happy here thus far but my intention was to mention that the training pay and 1st year if rough here. I'm also aware that everyone has had to go through the ****ty first year pay wherever they are, but add inflation and a family and it doesn't really cut it here in 2022. I'm also tired of hearing that people used to walk uphill both ways in the snow and flying checks for pennies just to make it to a well paying position. I left the puddle jumpers before all of the regionals literally doubled their pay. It was a no brainer at the time. I'm in a position now in which if pay got changed soon I wouldn't leave, and I know plenty others in the same boat.
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